As an exhausted, injury-ravaged Derby County sink into the bottom three, Chris, Cutch and Tom attempt to keep the faith in discussing whether the Rams can pull themselves out of trouble. We analyse the damaging defeat away at Cardiff City and the key points which caused the 2-1 defeat, before addressing the growing unrest over Paul Warne's position - and how bad results may have to be before David Clowes has not choice but to act.

There's plenty of transfer news to get stuck in to as well - the possible return of Matt Clarke, an acceptable fee which we'd be happy with from Brighton to lure Eiran Cashin away, Danish unknown Oscar Fraulo... and a goodbye to League One's James Collins.

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