Chris and Austin discuss second order effects in systems thinking and the dramatic impact it has on product development and mob programming. Every person in a system who makes a decision has a desired positive effect. However, what are the side effects of that effect and what are the side effects of the side effects? Are they negative or positive? Experiences and suggestions are shared in regards to the second order effects of "efficient" code reviews, sprints, metrics, estimates, working solo, etc.

Video and show notes: https://youtu.be/AmoeA_Hz5Rg