Most podcasts take a very one-dimensional approach to the idea of what our visitors are: they’re aliens. From the beginning, Whitley called them visitors because we don’t know that. Even though we have debris and bodies and maybe even intact disks, we have no idea where they came from in space and time.

Let’s take a fresh look, and for the next two weeks we’re going to do just that on Dreamland. Three amazing experts join Whitley to tackle the question of just what does “real” mean when it comes to UFOs and close encounters?