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The top priority on the CIS Critical Security Controls list has never changed: inventory and control of enterprise assets. Yet it remains one of the most challenging controls to implement, much less master. The refrain, "you can't secure what you don't know about" is as old as information security itself.

Complicating this task is the fact that improving asset management isn't an aspiration unique to the security team. IT, finance, facilities, and other groups within large enterprises are concerned with this as well. This often leads to challenges: should all these groups attempt to standardize on one common asset database or CMDB? Or should security go their own way, and purchase their own asset management tool?

Answering these questions would be a lot easier if we had someone with an IT asset management (ITAM) perspective, and fortunately, we do! Jeremy Boerger of Boerger Consulting joins us to help us understand the IT perspective, so we can understand if there are opportunities for security and IT to help each other out, or at least find some common ground!

Boerger Consulting Resources:

• Email newsletter
• LinkedIn newsletter
• Book page
• Amazon book page

I often say that it isn't the concepts or ideas in cybersecurity that are bad, but the implementations of them. Sometimes the market timing is just wrong and the industry isn't ready for a particular technology (e.g. enterprise browsers). Other times, the technology just isn't ready yet (e.g. SIEMs needed better database technology and faster storage). Since the ideas are solid, we see these concepts return after a few years.

Application allowlisting is one of these product categories. Threatlocker has been around since 2017 and is now a late stage startup that has achieved market fit. We chat with the company's CEO and founder, Danny Jenkins to find out how they learned from the mistakes made before them, and differentiate from the technology some of us remember from the late 2000s and early 2010s.

Segment Resources:

• ThreatLocker Solutions

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In this interview, Maor Bin, CEO and Co-Founder of Adaptive Shield, discusses the evolving landscape of SaaS Security. He highlights the challenges posed by the security gap resulting from the rapid adoption of SaaS applications and why SaaS security is beyond just misconfiguration management.

Segment Resources: https://www.adaptive-shield.com/landing-page/the-annual-saas-security-survey-report-2025-ciso-plans-and-priorities/

This segment is sponsored by Adaptive Shield. Visit https://securityweekly.com/adaptiveshieldbh to download the Annual SaaS Security Survey Report!

Cybersecurity professionals are often confronted with ethical dilemmas that need to be carefully navigated. In 25 years of teaching incident handling and penetration testing, Ed has often been asked by his students for help in ethical decision-making. Ed will share some of their questions and his recommended approaches for addressing them. Ed also has a new book out, The Code of Honor, about cybersecurity ethics. All proceeds go to scholarships for college students.

Segment Resources: 1) Ed's book, published June 18, 2024: https://www.amazon.com/Code-Honor-Embracing-Ethics-Cybersecurity/dp/1394275862/ref=sr11?crid=1DSHPCXDIQ1VT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.rmZX2-3mj1nI74iKkjbKkQSNKCuRjjn-QQ8qrzVy21tMRAXuKu5Qr5rPgtszkVd7zJMV7oVTuImUZIxMQfecnaRlNRfAVI5G7azyWi8lY.WHOujvlsQXPTJaHuEafwRC2WVKZe474eVXHn46kLiEY&dib_tag=se&keywords=skoudis&qid=1722767581&sprefix=skoudis%2Caps%2C90&sr=8-1

2) Holiday Hack Challenge - sans.org/holidayhack

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-374

MGs, Free Speech, sedexp, Cthulhu, SeaTac, GrimResource, ServiceBridge, the FBI, Josh Marpet, and more, on this Edition of the Security Weekly News.

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/swn-410

IoT devices are notorious for weak designs, insecure implementations, and a lifecycle that mostly ignores patching. We look at external factors that might lead to change, like the FCC's cybersecurity labeling for IoT. We explore the constraints that often influence poor security on these devices, whether those constraints are as consequential given modern appsec practices, and what the opportunities are to make these devices more secure for everyone.

Segment resources:

• https://www.fcc.gov/document/cybersecurity-labeling-program-internet-things-iot-products

Research by Orange Tsai into Apache HTTPD's architecture reveals several vulns, NCC Group shows techniques for hacking IoT devices with Sonos speakers, finding use cases for WebAssembly, Slack's AI leaks data, DARPA wants a future of Rust, and more!

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-297

How are personal liability and indemnification impacting the CISO role? Darren Shou, Chief Strategy Officer from RSA Conference, describes the current landscape of CISO liability and the challenges facing CISOs today. He discusses the implications of the SEC's recent actions, including the charges against SolarWinds' CISO, and the growing trend of personal liability for security leaders. Darren will also highlight comparisons between the roles of CISOs and CFOs, highlighting what security professionals can learn from their financial counterparts in handling risks and responsibilities. Finally, he explores how to build an effective coalition, both internally with company executives and externally with peers. In this ever changing risk landscape, it takes a village, and Darren shares his vision for how to build that village.

This week we talk a lot about the CISO's relationship with the business and the challenges of being aligned and keeping up. We also talk about budget priorities, the challenge of doing security in small businesses, and the ever-present challenge of burnout. Finally, we discuss what servant leadership actually means.

On this last topic, Ben makes a book recommendation, which you can find here: https://www.amazon.com/Seat-Table-Leadership-Age-Agility/dp/1942788118

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/bsw-362

Faking your death, Fake Reviews, Solar Winds, AWS, Recall, Winux, Kubernetes, and More on the Security Weekly News.

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/swn-409

This week, in the enterprise security news,

1. A funding that looks like an acquisition
2. And two for-sure acquisitions
3. Rumors that there are funding problems for early stage cyber startups, and we’ll see a lot more acquisitions before the end of the year
4. Speaking of rumors, Crowdstrike did NOT like last week’s Action1 acquisition rumor!
5. Shortening detection engineering feedback loops
6. HoneyAgents
7. More reflections on Black Hat 2024
8. The attacker does NOT just have to get it right once
9. and the defender does NOT have to get it right every time
10. Remember BEC scams? Yeah, they’re still enterprise enemy #1

All that and more, in the news this week on Enterprise Security Weekly!

With employees spending most of their working hours on the browser, web attacks are one of the biggest attack vectors today. Yet, both enterprises and security vendors today aren’t focused on securing the browser – a huge risk given that attackers can easily bypass Secure Web Gateways, SASE and SSE solutions.

This segment will demonstrate the importance of a browser-native solution, discuss the limitations of current solutions and how enterprises can better protect their employees from web attacks.

Segment Resources:

• DEF CON talk abstract
• Enterprise use cases for SquareX
• Data Sheet
• Why Browser Native Solutions are better than Cloud Based Proxies
• Blog on the Many Failures of Secure Web Gateways

This segment is sponsored by Square X. Visit https://securityweekly.com/squarexbh to learn how SquareX can protect your employees from web attacks!

The recent CrowdStrike outage and subsequent disruption tested organizations' resiliency and confidence as the world went offline. It served as a reminder that in an increasingly technology-dependent world, things will go wrong – but security leaders can plan accordingly and leverage emerging technologies to help minimize the damage.

In this interview, Tanium’s Vice President of Product Marketing Vivek Bhandari explains how AI and automation can help with remediation and even prevent similar outages from happening in the future, and breaks down the future of Autonomous Endpoint Management (AEM) as the solution for continuous cyber resilience in the face of disruption.

Segment Resources:

• The Future of Converged Endpoint Management is Autonomous Endpoint Management (AEM)

This segment is sponsored by Tanium. Visit https://securityweekly.com/taniumbh to learn more about them!

Join Swimlane CISO, Mike Lyborg and Security Weekly’s Mandy Logan as they cut through the AI peanut butter! While Generative AI is the not-so-new hot topic, it's also not the first time the cybersecurity industry has embraced emerging technology that can mimic human actions. Security automation and its ability to take action on behalf of humans have paved the way for generative AI to be trusted (within reason). The convergence and maturity of these technologies now have the potential to revolutionize how SecOps functions while force-multiplying SOC teams.

This segment is sponsored by Swimlane. Visit https://securityweekly.com/swimlanebh to learn more about them!

ProCircular, is a security automaton power-user and AI early adopter. Hear from Swimlane customer, Brandon Potter, CTO at ProCircular, about how use of Swimlane, has helped his organization increase efficiency, improve security metrics and ultimately grow their customer base without increasing headcount.

Segment Resources:

• ProCircular Case Study
• ProCircular Web Site

This segment is sponsored by Swimlane. Visit https://securityweekly.com/swimlanebh to learn more about them!

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Every week here on the show we talk about vulnerabilities and exploits. Typically we recommend that organizations remediate these vulnerabilities in some way. But how? And more importantly, which ones? Some tools we have to help us are actually not all that helpful at time, such as:

• Mitre Att&ck - Don't get me wrong, this is a great project and Adam and team is doing a great job. However, its not a complete picture as we can't possibly know about every attack vector (or can we?). People seem to think if they cover everything in the framework they will be secure. You can't cover everything in the framework because each technique can be utilized by an attack in a hundred different ways.
• CVSS - Anyone can apply a score, but who is correct? Good that we have a way to score things, but then people will just use this as a basis for what they patch and what they do not. Also, chaining vulnerabilities is a thing, but we seem to lack any way to assign a score to multiple vulnerabilities at once (different from a technique). Also, some things don't get a CVE, how are you tracking, assessing risk, and patching these?
• CISA KEV - Again, love the project and Tod is doing amazing work. However, what about things that do not get a CVE? Also, how do you track every incident of an attacker doing something in the wild? Also, there is frequency, just because something got exploited once, does that mean you need to patch it right away? How are we tracking how often something is exploited as it is not just a binary "yes, its exploited" or "no, it is not".
• EPSS - I do like the concept and Wade and Jay are doing amazing work. However, there seems to be a "gut reaction" thing going on where we do see things being exploited, but the EPSS score is low. How can we get better at predicting? We certainly have enough data, but are we collecting the right data to support a model that can tell us what the attackers will do next?

This week: YAVD: Yet Another Vulnerable Driver, why bring your own when one already exists, backdoors in MIFARE Classic, wireless hacking tips, AMD sinkclose vulnerability will keep running, you down with SLDP yea you know me, Phrack!, IoTGoats, Pixel vulnerabilities, leaking variables, a DEF CON talk that was not cancelled, Telnet is still a thing, More CNAs, and the last thing Flint Michigan needed was a ransomware attack!

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/psw-840

This week, Jeff Pollard and Allie Mellen join us to discuss the fallout and lessons learned from the CrowdStrike fiasco. They explore the reasons behind running in the kernel, the challenges of software quality, and the distinction between a security incident and an IT incident. They also touch on the need to reduce the attack surface and the importance of clear definitions in the cybersecurity industry. The conversation explores the need for a product security revolution and the importance of transparency and trust in security vendors.

As development cycles shorten and more responsibilities shift to developers, application security (AppSec) is rapidly evolving. Organizations are increasingly building mature programs that automate and enhance AppSec, moving beyond manual processes. In this discussion, we explore how organizations are adapting their AppSec practices, highlighting the challenges and milestones encountered along the way.

Key topics include the integration of security into the development lifecycle, the impact of emerging technologies, and strategies for fostering a security-first culture. Boaz Barzel shares his experiences and offers practical advice on overcoming common obstacles, ensuring that security measures keep pace with rapid technological advancements. This segment serves as a comprehensive guide for organizations striving to enhance their AppSec practices and continuously optimize their posture.

This segment is sponsored by OX Security. Visit https://securityweekly.com/oxbh to learn more about them!

Given the rapid rise of threat actors utilizing AI for cyber-attacks, security teams need advanced AI capabilities more than ever.

Shimon will discuss how Dataminr’s Pulse for Cyber Risk uses Dataminr’s leading multi-modal AI platform to provide the speed and scale required to build enterprise resilience in the modern cyber threat environment. Dataminr's world-leading AI platform helps companies stay informed - performing trillions of daily computations across billions of public data inputs from more than one million unique public data sources encompassing text, image, video, audio and sensor signals to provide real-time information when you need it most.

Segment Resources: https://www.dataminr.com/pulse/cyber-risk/?utmsource=google&utmmedium=paidsearch&utmterm=dataminr%20company&utmcampaign=NORAMDIGIBRG-SearchHDRSMajEntDemo&utmsource=google&utmmedium=paidsearch&hsaacc=8657480186&hsacam=958164645&hsagrp=125093879176&hsaad=654125003504&hsasrc=g&hsatgt=kwd-338332441603&hsakw=dataminr%20company&hsamt=p&hsanet=adwords&hsaver=3&gadsource=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwnqK1BhBvEiwAi7o0XxetJ1k8xcqlYk1Pk5Jsr6Adr2yP-9yhNM7oxISq2-Rbz-UunCxSmhoCYfgQAvD_BwE

https://www.dataminr.com/resources/on-demand-webinar/why-cyber-physical-convergence-really-matters

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Dangerous books, Microsoft Plus, NPD, Solar Winds, Jenkins, and more, on this Edition of the Security Weekly News.

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Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/swn-408

What are the barriers to cyber resilience today? Why is it so difficult? And what is coming next, that will generate resilience challenges further down the line?

After five years of focusing on the short- and medium-term future of cybersecurity and edge, this year, LevelBlue wanted to understand what is preventing cyber resilience—and what business leaders are doing about it. Theresa Lanowitz, Chief Evangelist at LevelBlue, joins us to discuss the results of their research.

Segment Resources: LevelBlue.com/futuresreport

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While CISOs are often responsible for technology implementation, they are not getting the support they need at a strategic level. The Accelerator found that 73% of CISOs expressed concern over cybersecurity becoming unwieldy, requiring risk-laden tradeoffs, compared to only 58% of both CIOs and CTOs.

Understanding the C-suite’s business priorities is critical for shaping effective cybersecurity strategies. Identifying how these essential roles look at the business helps to ensure alignment among CIOs, CTOs, and CISOs, as well as the teams that report into them. It’s a key first step towards bolstering cyber defenses, especially with the CEO and Board support.

This segment is sponsored by LevelBlue. Visit https://securityweekly.com/levelbluebh to learn more about cyber resilience and how to start the conversation in your organization!

Employees spend up to 80% of their working hours in a web browser, and threat actors are increasingly leveraging browsers to target users and initiate attacks. Disrupting the tool employees use for 80% of their job would have massive impact on productivity. Rather than ripping and replacing, enterprises can turn any browser into a secure enterprise browser.

Segment Resources: Menlo homepage: https://resources.menlosecurity.com/videos/browser-security

Menlo research on three new nation state campaigns: https://www.menlosecurity.com/press-releases/menlo-security-exposes-three-new-nation-state-campaigns

Every browser should be a secure enterprise browser: https://www.menlosecurity.com/blog/every-browser-should-be-a-secure-enterprise-browser

Defending against zero-hour phishing attacks: https://www.menlosecurity.com/blog/state-of-browser-security-defending-browsers-against-ever-evolving-zero-hour-phishing-attacks

This segment is sponsored by Menlo Security. Visit https://securityweekly.com/menlobh or schedule a demo to learn more about the role of browser security in eliminating the risk of highly evasive threats!

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