This week I talk to artist, educator, and learning designer Jack Thomas about seeing patterns, making art, and the scientific side of art and printmaking, and doing and getting lost in the process. Along the way we end up talking about Paul from the Woodworking is Bullshit podcast and his approach to creating and collaborating. We also chat about her book Artist Therapy: 26 Secrets to Studio Success.

Find out more about her work on Instagram and jackthomas.art.