Self Made Is a Myth: How Business Owners Get Out of the Day-to-Day and Scale

Most businesses don’t stall because of a lack of strategy.

They stall because execution keeps pulling the owner back into the day-to-day.

In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Coach Tim Campsall sits down with David Karandish, founder of Capacity, to unpack what happens when hiring decisions ignore values and why that mistake quietly caps growth.

David shares how misaligned hires forced him back into the weeds, the personal cost of carrying execution himself, and the shift that allowed Capacity to scale without breaking culture. If your business works but still depends too much on you, this conversation will feel uncomfortably familiar.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• Why hiring for talent alone creates long-term execution drag
• How unclear values pull owners back into daily decisions
• The hidden cost of “good people” who are the wrong fit
• What it takes to translate strategy into action without owner dependency

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Looking To Scale Your Business:

Did you know that only 9% of businesses make it to $1,000,000 in revenue and less than 1% get to $5,000,000. The reason is that the hustle and grind that got you to $1,000,000 needs to shift to scaling strategies to go beyond. Book a Discovery Call now to learn how our ActionCOACH Business Operating System (ABoS) and coaching helps you to get unstuck and thrive to realize your personal and dreams and business goals. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/

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Timestamps:

(00:00) When growth starts slowing without warning
(02:05) Hiring skilled people who don’t share values
(04:00) The personal cost of misaligned hires
(05:10) Defining values before scaling the team
(07:45) Why “good people” can still stall growth
(09:40) Translating strategy into execution
(12:00) Complexity, priorities, and owner dependency
(14:30) Selecting the right problems to solve
(16:55) Escaping the messy middle without working harder
(20:00) Why self-made is a myth in real scaling

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David Karandish is Founder & CEO of Capacity – an enterprise SaaS company headquartered in St. Louis, MO. Capacity is a support automation platform that uses AI to deflect emails, calls, and tickets so internal and external support teams can spend more time doing their best work.

Prior to starting Capacity, David was the CEO of Answers Corp. He and his business partner Chris Sims started the parent company of Answers in 2006 and sold it to a private equity firm in 2014 for $960m.

David sits on the boards of Create a Loop (a computer science education non-profit tackling the digital divide by teaching kids to code). David was also an early investor and board member at Nerdy (NYSE: NRDY), an on-demand, real-time learning platform in the ed tech space.

David lives in St. Louis with his wife, Erin and four kids. When not working, he enjoys spending time with his family and playing ukulele.

Growth can look healthy on paper while quietly draining the owner behind the scenes.

In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Coach Tim Campsall sits down with Nicole Smith, Franchise Owner of DOXA Talent Center City, to unpack what happens when growth accelerates without focus, structure, or clear leadership accountability.

Nicole shares how saying yes to the wrong clients created complexity, exhaustion, and constant reactivity, even as the business appeared to be gaining momentum. As the company grew, decisions, interruptions, and progress kept flowing back through her, pulling her deeper into the day-to-day instead of forward as a leader.

This conversation explores what it really costs when owners hold on too tightly, why working harder never fixes structural issues, and how intentional client focus, delegation, and leadership systems create space for sustainable growth.

If your business works but still depends on you, this episode will feel uncomfortably familiar.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
• Why saying yes to the wrong clients slows growth instead of accelerating it
• How lack of leadership structure pulls owners back into daily operations
• The hidden personal cost of constant reactivity and decision overload
• Why delegation fails when owners abdicate instead of lead
• How building leaders, not just systems, creates long-term scale

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Looking To Scale Your Business:
Did you know that only 9% of businesses make it to $1,000,000 in revenue and less than 1% get to $5,000,000. The reason is that the hustle and grind that got you to $1,000,000 needs to shift to scaling strategies to go beyond. Book a Discovery Call now to learn how our ActionCOACH Business Operating System (ABoS) and coaching helps you to get unstuck and thrive to realize your personal and dreams and business goals. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/

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Timestamps:
(00:00) The growth problem Nicole could no longer ignore
(01:30) Why growth kept pulling her into the day-to-day
(03:00) Letting go of the belief that owners must touch everything
(04:30) When growth looks healthy but feels exhausting
(06:00) The personal cost of constant reactivity
(07:45) Why leadership and accountability structures matter
(09:00) Systems vs people, and why both are required
(11:00) Delegation vs abdication
(13:00) The belief that keeps owners stuck doing it alone
(15:45) What Nicole would tell her younger self

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Nicole Smith is a purpose-driven leader and DOXA Talent franchise owner, with a passion for building high-performing global teams that reflect her values of equity, empowerment, and excellence. With a background in organizational development and a deep commitment to uplifting others, Nicole helps small and mid-sized businesses scale ethically and efficiently through remote talent. Her leadership philosophy centers on unlocking potential—in people, in systems, and in culture.

Most business owners pride themselves on being capable, dependable, and self-reliant. Early on, that mindset fuels growth. Eventually, it becomes the very thing that stalls it.

In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Coach Tim Campsall sits down with Monty Anderson, owner of RTM, a fast-growing marine sales, service, and storage company. Monty shares how relying too heavily on himself quietly capped growth, strained culture, and pulled him deeper into the day-to-day.

Monty walks through the real shift that had to happen, letting go of “no one can do it as well as me,” investing in training, tools, and time, and learning how leadership and management must evolve as a company scales. With nearly 80 team members across multiple locations, Monty explains why delegation without systems is chaos, and why systems without training fail just as fast.

If you are an owner who feels buried in decisions, frustrated by team performance, or worried the business would stall without you, this conversation will hit close to home.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
• Why self-reliance eventually becomes a growth ceiling
• The real cost of skipping training, tools, and time
• How poor delegation quietly damages culture and profitability
• What it actually takes to build a business that can run without you

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Looking To Scale Your Business:
Did you know that only 9% of businesses make it to $1,000,000 in revenue and less than 1% get to $5,000,000. The reason is that the hustle and grind that got you to $1,000,000 needs to shift to scaling strategies to go beyond. Book a Discovery Call now to learn how our ActionCOACH Business Operating System (ABoS) and coaching helps you to get unstuck and thrive to realize your personal and dreams and business goals. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/

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Timestamps:
(00:00) Why self-reliance quietly stalls growth
(02:10) Seeing the opportunity in a broken industry
(05:20) The danger of “no one can do it better than me”
(07:30) Why training, tools, and time are non-negotiable
(10:40) Delegation without systems creates chaos
(13:00) The real difference between leadership and management
(16:10) How self-sabotage shows up for owners
(19:00) What happens when growth outpaces structure
(22:10) Building a business that works without you
(27:30) Why sellability is the true test of success

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Monty Anderson was born and raised in Indianapolis. Married 15 years to my beautiful wife Alena. Grew up in the family business building custom homes and land development. Now only focuses on instilling boating culture and experiences to my customers.

Most business owners know technology matters, but many delay the decision because of cost, fear, or not knowing where to start. The result is usually the same, the owner stays buried in the day-to-day while growth stalls.

In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Tim Campsall sits down with Brad Shields, owner of Shields Windshields, to unpack how resisting technology upgrades quietly limited growth, created bottlenecks, and kept too much responsibility on the owner’s shoulders.

Brad shares the real story behind building a high-performance manufacturing business, navigating a family business transition, and making the leap from manual processes to automation, systems, and leadership depth. He also opens up about the mindset shifts required to let go, trust a growing team, and build a company that can scale beyond the founder.

If you are a business owner who knows your business cannot keep growing the way it is currently run, this conversation will hit close to home.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• Why delaying technology investments often costs more than making them
• How being the bottleneck slows growth even when demand is strong
• The hidden leadership shift required to let go without losing control
• Why “having the best product” is not enough to scale
• How building the right team and management structure creates freedom

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Looking To Scale Your Business:

Did you know that only 9% of businesses make it to $1,000,000 in revenue and less than 1% get to $5,000,000. The reason is that the hustle and grind that got you to $1,000,000 needs to shift to scaling strategies to go beyond. Book a Discovery Call now to learn how our ActionCOACH Business Operating System (ABoS) and coaching helps you to get unstuck and thrive to realize your personal and dreams and business goals. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Why avoiding technology quietly stalls growth
(02:20) Escaping low-margin work and rethinking the business model
(04:00) Running everything manually and wearing every hat
(06:30) The fear behind investing in automation and equipment
(08:05) The personal cost of being stuck in the day-to-day
(10:55) Why the best product alone does not scale a business
(14:40) The mindset shift required to let go without losing control
(18:00) Building leadership, management, and accountability
(22:50) Installing systems to prepare for future expansion
(26:50) Why self-made success is a myth and who helped most

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Most business owners do not struggle because they lack ideas. They struggle because they have too many priorities competing for their attention.

In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth – Make a Difference Together, Coach Tim Campsall sits down with Brian of Indiana Business Advisors and Sunbelt Business Brokers to unpack how chasing too many opportunities, relying on referrals alone, and lacking a consistent lead generation system quietly pulls owners back into the day-to-day.

Brian shares how shiny object syndrome, revenue-first thinking, and wearing too many hats cost him peace of mind, focus, and leverage. He also explains why building systems that allow the business to run without the owner is not just about growth, but about long-term value, freedom, and exit readiness.

This conversation is especially relevant for owners who feel busy, successful on the surface, but stretched thin and reactive behind the scenes.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
• Why having too many initiatives creates hidden chaos inside the business
• How chasing revenue without structure hurts profit and valuation
• The real cost of relying only on referrals for growth
• Why consistent lead generation systems protect owner time and focus
• How stepping out of the day-to-day increases both freedom and business value

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Looking To Scale Your Business:

Did you know that only 9% of businesses make it to $1,000,000 in revenue and less than 1% get to $5,000,000. The reason is that the hustle and grind that got you to $1,000,000 needs to shift to scaling strategies to go beyond. Book a Discovery Call now to learn how our ActionCOACH Business Operating System (ABoS) and coaching helps you to get unstuck and thrive to realize your personal and dreams and business goals. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Why too many priorities stall growth
(01:00) Losing freedom after starting the business
(03:35) Shiny object syndrome and scattered focus
(06:00) The real cost of being pulled in every direction
(07:30) Revenue growth does not fix broken structure
(09:10) Profit, peace of mind, and owner leverage
(11:00) Why buyers avoid owner-dependent businesses
(14:00) Exit planning starts earlier than most owners think
(16:00) The danger of relying only on referrals
(18:30) Why consistent marketing systems matter
(22:00) Defining success beyond growth and hustle
(25:00) Why self-made success is a myth

Many business owners work harder every year, yet growth still slows. Often, the real issue is not effort, talent, or demand. It is accountability.

In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Coach Tim Campsall sits down with Mary Grace, owner of Pingoy Portrait Studio, to unpack what happens when a creative business grows faster than its systems, leadership structure, and accountability.

Mary Grace shares how her business evolved from a passion project into a fast-growing studio, and why letting go of control, building the right team, and holding people accountable became critical to sustaining growth. She opens up about hiring challenges, culture breakdowns, and the hard lessons that came from trusting without structure.

This conversation is especially relevant for owners who feel stuck between doing everything themselves and trusting a team that is not yet performing at the level required for the next phase of growth.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
• Why lack of accountability quietly slows business growth
• How early hiring decisions impact culture and performance
• The hidden cost of avoiding hard leadership conversations
• Why sales roles are often the hardest to replace
• What it takes to step out of the day-to-day without losing control

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Looking To Scale Your Business:

Did you know that only 9% of businesses make it to $1,000,000 in revenue and less than 1% get to $5,000,000. The reason is that the hustle and grind that got you to $1,000,000 needs to shift to scaling strategies to go beyond. Book a Discovery Call now to learn how our ActionCOACH Business Operating System (ABoS) and coaching helps you to get unstuck and thrive to realize your personal and dreams and business goals. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Why growth slows despite hard work
(02:15) Turning a passion into a real business
(05:30) Learning the business side the hard way
(08:10) Letting go of control to scale
(10:45) When trust replaces accountability
(13:30) Culture breakdowns and leadership lessons
(16:50) Why sales roles stall growth
(19:40) Limiting beliefs that cap business size
(22:30) What must change to grow smarter
(24:45) Building a business that does not rely on you

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Mary Grace is a mom of 6 kids and wife of 18 years to her husband Ray, whom she met and fell in love with during their time as Catholic youth missionaries, serving in countries all over the world, and their faith continues to be the driving force of their lives.

Mary Grace is an internationally recognized, award-winning photographer, and owner of the leading Fine Art Portrait Studio in NW Indiana. By her third year of opening the studio she grew her business to 7 figures. While regular photo studios focus soley on photos, Pingoy Portrait Studio creates unique works of art that families are proud to hang in their homes.

The studio offers specialized sessions for families, children, and pets and prides themselves on a 5-star experience for every family they are blessed to serve. Mary Grace has frequently been featured on numerous outlets such as ABC, WGN, Good Morning America, WTTW, and Parents Magazine.

Most business owners assume growth stalls because of sales or marketing. In reality, the biggest constraint is often talent.

In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Coach Tim Campsall sits down with Lee, owner of Stratus Building Solutions of Indiana, to unpack the real challenges that surface once a service business reaches stability and starts pushing for its next phase of growth.

After spending more than 30 years in corporate leadership, Lee made the leap into entrepreneurship and built his business from the ground up. Along the way, he discovered that hiring decisions, people development, and systems have a far greater impact on scalability than simply working harder or chasing top-line revenue.

This conversation dives into what most owners underestimate about building teams, why hiring for talent matters more than experience, and what it truly takes to build a business that can grow without depending on the owner for everything.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
• Why talent gaps quietly stall service business growth
• How early hiring decisions affect cash flow and scalability
• Why hiring for talent beats hiring for experience
• The role systems and accountability play as the business matures
• What it really takes to build a business that runs without you

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Looking To Scale Your Business:

Did you know that only 9% of businesses make it to $1,000,000 in revenue and less than 1% get to $5,000,000. The reason is that the hustle and grind that got you to $1,000,000 needs to shift to scaling strategies to go beyond. Book a Discovery Call now to learn how our ActionCOACH Business Operating System (ABoS) and coaching helps you to get unstuck and thrive to realize your personal and dreams and business goals. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Why growth stalls even when revenue increases
(02:30) Leaving corporate leadership to start a business
(05:20) Early cash flow realities
(07:45) Why people decisions matter more than owners expect
(10:15) Hiring for talent instead of experience
(14:40) The mindset shift every growing owner faces
(18:00) Why marketing becomes unpredictable at scale
(22:10) Systems, accountability, and team alignment
(27:00) Why doing nothing is the biggest risk
(31:00) Building a business that runs without you

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Lee Putman was born and has lived his life in the midwestern United States. He graduated high school in Goshen, IN and attended Indiana University Kelly School of Business. He has been married to his wife Sheri for the past sixteen years. They have a blended family of six adult children now sprinkled across the US and one currently living in London, and two grand children in NW Indiana.

Lee Spent 33 years in corporate America working in the medical device space, including 23 years with Johnson & Johnson and 8 years in a venture start up. In his corporate career he worked in a number of sales and marketing roles and led several large sales organizations. In 2016 he was asked to relocate to Austin, TX and made the decision to stay here in central Indiana which left him looking for what was next. At 55 years old he decided he no longer wanted to be employed by others and chose to start his own company. Nine years later he and his wife have built a successful commercial cleaning company. They now spend their time between their homes in Noblesville, IN and Southwest, FL.

Most business owners do not hit a wall because they lack effort. They hit it because the way the business makes money no longer supports the next phase of growth.

In this episode of Self‑Made Is a Myth, Coach Tim Campsall sits down with Eric Bey, owner of Shades Industrial, a forklift and equipment service company built through family, faith, and persistence.

Eric shares the moment he realized the business model that got them this far was no longer sustainable. Cash flow swings, owner distraction, and inconsistent revenue were slowing everything else down. What stood out was not a lack of demand, but the absence of predictable, recurring service revenue.

The conversation explores the hidden cost of avoiding structure, why hiring the right team took years longer than it should have, and how focus, not effort, became the real constraint. Eric also explains why building service plans with recurring revenue is the single most important priority for the next year and what happens if it does not get solved.

If you are running a service business, carrying too much yourself, and feeling the pressure of uneven cash flow, this episode will feel uncomfortably familiar.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
• Why profitable businesses still struggle with cash flow and what actually causes it
• How recurring service plans stabilize revenue and reduce owner stress
• The mistake many owners make by avoiding hiring and how it quietly limits growth
• Why focus and distraction, not effort, are the biggest threats to scaling
• How shifting from reactive repairs to planned service changes the business model

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Looking To Scale Your Business:

Did you know that only 9% of businesses make it to $1,000,000 in revenue and less than 1% get to $5,000,000. The reason is that the hustle and grind that got you to $1,000,000 needs to shift to scaling strategies to go beyond. Book a Discovery Call now to learn how our ActionCOACH Business Operating System (ABoS) and coaching helps you to get unstuck and thrive to realize your personal and dreams and business goals. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Why growth creates new problems
(01:00) Eric’s path into the family business
(05:00) The hidden cost of avoiding employees
(08:00) Hiring team members who align with vision
(12:20) The cash flow problem holding everything back
(14:30) Why recurring service revenue matters
(18:00) The mindset shift around wealth and support
(22:15) Focus as the real growth lever
(26:00) Eliminating distractions as an owner
(29:10) Final advice for overwhelmed business owners

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Most business owners start with a passion for their craft, then slowly realize the business depends on them for everything. Sales, operations, people, decisions. The weight adds up, and eventually something has to change.

In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Coach Tim Campsall sits down with Heath, owner of Madison Cabinets, to unpack a 20+ year journey of leading a multi-generation, family-owned business and confronting the limits of doing it all himself.

Heath shares the moment he realized managing sales, operations, and people alone was no longer sustainable. He explains how learning to truly understand the numbers changed how he makes decisions, why delegation was harder than he expected, and how leadership development became the key to scaling without constant firefighting. From rapid pandemic growth to intentionally pulling back for stability, this conversation offers a practical look at building a business that works without burning out the owner.

This episode is for business owners who feel stuck between working harder and growing smarter, and know the business cannot keep relying on them for everything.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• Why understanding your numbers is essential to protecting profit
• How delegation and leadership development remove the owner bottleneck
• The mindset shift required to stop doing $20/hour work
• What it takes to build a team that can run the business day to day

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Looking To Scale Your Business:

Did you know that only 9% of businesses make it to $1,000,000 in revenue and less than 1% get to $5,000,000. The reason is that the hustle and grind that got you to $1,000,000 needs to shift to scaling strategies to go beyond. Book a Discovery Call now to learn how our ActionCOACH Business Operating System (ABoS) and coaching helps you to get unstuck and thrive to realize your personal and dreams and business goals. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/

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Timestamps:

(00:00) When doing it all becomes unsustainable
(01:00) Taking over a family business
(03:40) Why knowing the numbers matters
(06:00) Using financial clarity to make better decisions
(09:15) Delegation, trust, and letting go
(11:00) Scaling fast during the pandemic
(13:15) Leading family members at work
(15:00) The one issue holding back future growth
(18:40) Hiring for culture and leadership
(23:45) Advice for owners feeling overwhelmed

Most business owners believe working harder will eventually create freedom. But for many, that belief becomes the very thing that holds the business back.

In this episode of Self-Made Is a Myth, Coach Tim Campsall sits down with Leticia Snared, founder of MSIL Staffing & Packaging, to unpack her 25-year journey building a people-first staffing and packaging company in Indianapolis.

Leticia shares how she started the business in 2001 as a single mom, grew through multiple industries including automotive, manufacturing, and logistics, and navigated some of the hardest moments of ownership, including a partner split that forced her to rebuild the company from the ground up.

The conversation explores why long-term success requires trusting others, building culture intentionally, and learning how to let go as the business grows. Leticia also reflects on the importance of hiring the right people, surrounding yourself with smarter talent, and adapting to change, including how she is now leaning into technology and AI to support the next phase of growth.

This episode is for business owners who feel stretched thin, know they cannot do it all forever, and are ready to build a business that grows beyond them.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• Why owners often become the bottleneck as their business grows
• How culture and trust drive long-term scalability
• Lessons learned from rebuilding after a partner split
• Why hiring smarter people than yourself is essential
• How letting go creates growth instead of risk
• What 25 years of staffing teaches about people, leadership, and resilience

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Looking To Scale Your Business:

Did you know that only 9% of businesses make it to $1,000,000 in revenue and less than 1% get to $5,000,000. The reason is that the hustle and grind that got you to $1,000,000 needs to shift to scaling strategies to go beyond. Book a Discovery Call now to learn how our ActionCOACH Business Operating System (ABoS) and business or executive coaching helps you to get unstuck and thrive to realize your personal and dreams and business goals. https://tbcactioncoach.com/discovery-zoom-call/

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Why self-made is a myth in business
(01:05) Leticia’s journey starting MSIL as a single mom
(03:30) Learning every role before leading others
(05:00) How MSIL evolved across industries
(07:30) Crisis management and rapid scaling moments
(09:05) The challenge of a partner split
(10:55) Rebuilding with the right team in place
(12:05) Hiring smarter people than yourself
(14:25) Letting go as the business grows
(16:00) Why owners become the bottleneck
(19:45) Adapting to technology and AI
(22:35) The people who shaped Leticia’s success
(25:00) Advice for owners who feel stuck
(26:45) Final lessons on leadership and growth