SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast

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SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast episodes

  • S2 EP 1 - Robert Brooker - London Fraud Forum

    Robert Brooker, Chairman of the London Fraud Forum, sits down with Jimmy Fong to discuss the process of social engineering, the ever-growing importance of digital identity, his experiences of fighting fraud, and why collaboration is the only way we move forward.




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    43 min
  • The Story of SEON - Tamas Kadar, Bence Jendruszak & Jimmy Fong
    We're back! After a short break, the Cat & Mouse podcast returns with more candid discussions with some of the world's best fraud fighters. The co-founders of SEON sit down with host Jimmy Fong to dive into the ever-growing threat of cybersecurity and fraud as well as the journey of SEON to date.

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    47 min
  • A chat with a fraud fighter - Sergey Artyukhin - Libertex Group

    With knowledge from both the client and bank’s perspective, Sergey jumped at the opportunity to learn things from the merchant’s side of things, ultimately bringing together his experience to his current team leader role. 


    “Initially I was focused on payments before then moving across to more risk-based activities. I  have looked to create a balance between our KPIs in that whilst you might not have completely opposite targets, you should have something specific for another aspect of the business. 


    “For example, if you are working in risk you should have one KPI to reduce risk input from the clients or if you’re responsible for payments, one of your targets should be to reduce risk level or chargebacks.”


    Find more information about the Libertex Group.


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    17 min
  • A chat with a Fraudster - Anonymous A

    Welcome to episode 24 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we interview Anonymous !, an expert on account takeover.


    In this in-depth interview, they explain how they do it, and which fraud prevention measures are a waste of time for businesses – and add friction to the user journey.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal? To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io



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    13 min
  • A chat with a fraud fighter -Ina Macaria - Kindred Group

    On the latest episode of the latest Cat & Mouse episode, we hear from Ina Macaira, Product Manager at the Kindred Group, one of the world’s largest iGaming companies. 


    Ina walked us through the company’s idea of iGaming sustainability, how it’s deployed at the group, and how it can actually help with fraud rates in the long run. 


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal? To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io

    Find Ina Macaria Bawn on LinkedIn

    More information about the Kindred Group



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    19 min
  • A chat with a fraudster - Anonymous D

    Online stores have always been prized targets for fraudsters. But how exactly do they manage to receive physical goods without being detected? 


    In this episode of the Cat & Mouse podcast, you’ll hear about physical and bank drops, as explained by a fraudster we’ll call Anonymous D.

    They go over the techniques they have for receiving goods, how they keep the addresses going as long as possible and what kind of OpSec measures they have in place.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.The goal?

    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


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    9 min
  • A chat with a fraud fighter - Elena Emelyanova, WarGaming
    Welcome to episode 21 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we interview Elena Emelyanova, Senior Payments and Fraud Manager at Wargaming.net.


    As fraud manager of a video game company delivering war games to millions of users worldwide, Elena had to learn how to anticipate fraud, learn how it works with micropayments, and where fraud management needs to improve in general. She shared some of her fascinating insights in a conversation that touches on seasonal fraud, irrational fraudsters, and the advantages criminals have.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?

    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Find Elena Emelyanova on Linkedin

    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    Wargaming is online here.

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io



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    17 min
  • A chat with a fraudster - Anonymous O
    Welcome to episode 20 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we interview Anonymous O, an expert on open banking fraud.


    Open banking is supposed to be a boon for bank customers, but it also opens the door to new attack vectors. Anonymous O explains how they work, from phishing to loan scams and buying challenger bank accounts.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?

    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.



    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


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    13 min
  • A chat with a fraud fighter - Stefania Bonà, Checkout.com
    On the latest episode, Jimmy spoke with Stefania Bonà (Data Science Product Manager, Checkout.com) about the journey that leads to working for one of the world's biggest fintechs.


    With unrivaled expertise in understanding the mind of a fraudster, Stefania details her key most important takeaways from almost a decade of experience studying and combatting cybercrime.


    Having developed her own gift card program and seen the entire spectrum of the supply chain, from merchant to buyer, this episode is packed with insightful comments.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?

    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


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    16 min
  • A chat with a fraudster - Anonymous G
    We’re now on episode 18 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we are joined once more by a fraudster we contacted on the darknet. 


    Anonymous G, as we’ll call them, is an expert at targeting financial institutions, both in terms of account takeover (ATO) and also onboarding using a fake ID and phone number.


    We’ll pick their brains about how they bypass OTP and 2FA, and what they think of new authentication methods such as Apple IDs.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal? To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


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    14 min

About SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast

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Fraudsters and fraud managers are locked in a never-ending war. So what's our goal with the Cat and Mouse Podcast?


To provide insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit…