SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast

SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast

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SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast episodes

  • A chat with a fraud fighter - Balint Patkos, SEON
    Welcome to our latest Cat & Mouse episode, where we are joined by SEON’s very own Head of Customer Success, Balint Patkos.

    Before joining SEON to help fraud fighters, Balint used to be one himself – and at an extremely high-risk company. 

    In this fascinating interview, he gives tips and shares insights on what he’s learned, especially in the context of growing a successful anti-fraud team.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?

    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


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    19 min
  • A chat with a fraudster - Anonymous P
    In this episode 16 of the Cat and Mouse podcast, we spoke with another active, real-life fraudster, whom we shall name Anonymous P.


    They guided us through some age-old phishing and scamming techniques that still work today, and explained what bank drops are, and why every fraudster dreams of opening an account with a neobank. They also revealed fascinating insights into how customer service agents are exploited by account takeover fraudsters.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?


    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io



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    16 min
  • A chat with a fraud fighter - Hugo Ugarte - NetBet
    Welcome to episode 15 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we interview Hugo Ugarte, Fraud Manager at NetBet. 


    Tackling risk and compliance at one of the largest iGaming and sports betting companies is no easy feat. Hugo was kind enough to talk to us about his experience in the UK, and how it compared with his stint in Mexico, in the heart of the Latin American market.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?

    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Hugo Ugarte on LinkedIn.

    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    NetBet is online here.

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io



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    13 min
  • A chat with a fraudster - Alexander Hall - Dispute Defense Consulting
    We’re back with another former fraudster turned consultant for the good guys. Today, it’s Alexander Hall, Principal at Dispute Defence Consulting.


    In this fascinating conversation, he touched upon his crazy life story, and what fraud fighting professionals can do to improve their efficiency, when understanding the value of your business data points, learning where holes happen in your line of defence, how drug trafficking, credit card testing and fraud are interwoven, and much more...


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?


    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.



    More information about Alexander Hall and Dispute Defense Consulting

    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io



    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    18 min
  • A chat with a fraud fighter - Arvis Strods, Robocash
    Welcome to episode 13 of the Cat & Mouse podcast. Today, we’re sitting down with Arvis Strods, Chief Risk Officer at Robocash Group, which is the mother holding of Robo.cash, one of the fastest-growing P2P lending platforms


    Because Arvis had such a varied career in risk management, we took the opportunity to pick his brains about the similarities, differences, and challenges of working in different industries. He had a lot to say, and some excellent advice to give to new fraud managers. 


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?


    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.



    Arvis Strods is on LinkedIn.

    Interview by Jimmy Fong.

    More info about Robocash.

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io.



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    20 min
  • A chat with a fraudster - Anonymous T
    Money laundering has always worked hand-in-hand with crime, but how has it changed in the online world?


    We spoke to a professional money launderer to get answers. In this episode of the Cat & Mouse podcast, you’ll hear about what modern money laundering looks like, why online casinos sometimes turn a blind eye to it, and why geolocation analysis is so important.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?


    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.



    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    17 min
  • A chat with a fraud fighter - Einar, CCP Games
    Welcome to episode 11 of the Cat & Mouse podcast. Today, we’re sitting down with Einar, who has been a security analyst at CCP Games for 17 years.


    17 years is also how old Eve Online is, the MMORPG that CCP Games is most famous for. In this fascinating interview, we’ll learn how a gaming company reduces risk for one of the most successful and complex online games of all time, how they work with developers, and why every update brings new fraud challenges. 


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?

    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    14 min
  • A chat with a fraudster - Anonymous B

    Have you ever wondered how fraudsters evade the law?

    It’s thanks to what they call OPSEC or operational security, and in episode 10 of our Cat & Mouse podcast, this is exactly what we’ll focus on. 


    We sourced one more fraudster from the darknet and got them to explain how they remain anonymous online – and not get caught by law enforcement agencies. They also shared some of the tools they use, why less vigilant fraudsters get caught, and what risk managers should do to combat their OPSEC.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?

    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.



    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    20 min
  • A chat with a fraud fighter - Sorin Hazu, Shell

    Welcome to episode 9 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we interview Sorin Hazu, Fraud and Risk Manager at Shell.


    As the fifth-largest company in the world, Shell needs little introduction. What might be news to our audience, however, is that the oil and gas corporation operates in the B2B sphere as well as B2C and that their fraud challenges are rampant. 


    The interview with Sorin was fascinating, as he explained how Shell fuel cards work, what card-present fraud looks like at the company, and the inventive way fraudsters were targeting them.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?

    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    You can find Sorin Hazu on LinkedIn.

    Interview by Jimmy Fong.

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io.


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    20 min
  • A chat with a fraudster - Anonymous X

    We’re now at episode 8 of the Cat & Mouse podcast, where we interview another career fraudster, whom we’ll call Anonymous X.


    This conversation revolved mostly around how fraudsters get started in the game, but it revealed a ton of fascinating insights, such as: How do fraudsters think about fraud management? What is a typical journey from wannabe fraudster to vendor? They share their knowledge about the technical tools of the trade as well as the worrying trend toward organised fraud networks.


    The SEON Cat and Mouse podcast is the only place where you’ll get to hear from both fraudsters and fraud fighters.


    The goal?

    To get insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit systems. To hear true-life examples of the thrills and frustrations of risk management. And, of course, to share entertaining, insightful, and actionable stories to improve your strategies against fraud.


    Interview by Jimmy Fong

    For more information about SEON, please visit www.seon.io


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    27 min

About SEON Cat & Mouse Podcast

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Fraudsters and fraud managers are locked in a never-ending war. So what's our goal with the Cat and Mouse Podcast?


To provide insights into the psychology of those who attack and exploit…