The Skeptics Guide to Emergency Medicine

SGEM#292: With or Without You – Endovascular Treatment with or without tPA for Large Vessel Occlusions


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Date: May 19th, 2020
Reference: Yang P et al. Endovascular thrombectomy with or without intravenous alteplase in acute stroke. NJEM 2020.
Guest Skeptic: Dr. Anand Swaminathan is an Assistant Professor of Emergency Medicine at St. Joseph’s Regional Medical Center in Paterson, NJ. Managing editor of EM:RAP and Associate Editor at REBEL EM.
Case: A 53-year-old previously healthy man presents with 1.5 hours of right sided weakness as well as slurred speech. A rapid bedside assessment gives you a National Institute of Health Stroke Score/Scale (NIHSS) of 9 and you are concerned about a large vessel occlusion (LVO) based on the high NIHSS as well as the presence of both an upper extremity drift and the speech abnormality. A non-contrast CT shows no evidence of intracranial hemorrhage. A CT angiogram plus CT perfusion demonstrate a clot in the left proximal middle cerebral artery (MCA) with a small infarcted area and a large penumbra. Based on your institution’s current guidelines, the patient is a candidate for endovascular therapy, but they are also within the current window for the administration of alteplase. You wonder if you should give the alteplase while waiting for your neurointerventional team?
Background: The issue of thrombolytics for stroke has been debated since at least 1995. This is the year that the famous NINDS trial was published. We cover this as an SGEM classic that all EM physicians should know about on SGEM#70. Our bottom line was that we were skeptical thrombolysis has a net patient-oriented benefit for acute ischemic strokes.
We have covered this issue of thrombolysis for acute ischemic stroke a number of times on the SGEM

* SGEM#29: Stroke Me, Stroke Me
* SGEM Xtra:Thrombolysis for Acute Stroke
* SGEM#290: Neurologist Led Stroke Teams – Working 9 to 5

You also had the Legend of Emergency Medicine, Dr. Jerome Hoffman on to reflect upon the last 25 years and the thrombolysis for acute ischemic stroke debate (No Retreat, No Surrender)
I also invited my EBM friend, Dr. Eddy Lang onto the SGEM to discuss his perspective on the issue (SGEM Xtra). This led to a pro/con publication in the Canadian Journal of Emergency Medicine (CJEM) tPA should be the initial treatment in eligible patients presenting with an acute ischemic stroke (Milne et al CJEM April 2020).
The publication of the MR CLEAN trial in January 2015 changed the face of ischemic stroke care. This was the first study demonstrating a benefit to endovascular treatment of a specific subset of ischemic stroke patients: those with LVOpresenting within sixhours of symptom onset. MR CLEAN was followed by a flurry of publications seeking to replicate and refine treatment as well as expand the window for treatment. The REBEL EM team reviewed this literature back in 2018 and,
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