Erin and Julia talk wine, and how they lost their safety deposit. Erin spends way too long trying to tell the story of Civil War spy Elizabeth Van Lew.

Skip to 13 minutes for Van Lew.

Erin and Julia talk wine, and reminisce about how they lost their security deposit. Erin attempts to tell the tale of Civil war spy ring leader Elizabeth Van Lew.

Skip to 13 minutes for Elizabeth Van Lew

Julia and Erin forget to introduce themselves as they drink too much Kirkland chardonnay and discuss life, urban legends, and the life of the reluctant spy Mata Hari.

skip to 25 minutes for urban legends

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