1:30 – Zach is weary of society and also on a delay

4 – How are you?

5:30 – We are all just hurtling through space on a tiny rock

8:15 – A pair of life coaches

9 – The podcast has in fact started and we are seven minutes and 30 seconds into it

10:15 – The Ellen Adair story begins in Philadelphia, which is how one becomes a Phillies fan, as few people willingly choose it

12:30 – Ben lobs out possibly the worst borough-related joke ever told

15 – Nepotism, etc

16:30 – Ellen Adair is NOT Ellen Adair's *full* name

19 – On the day that we recorded this podcast, someone named Ellen Adair died in South Carolina, but not THAT one

21:30 – A story about Kirk Douglas leads to the pronouncement that whiteness is a construct

24:30 – We are all Declan McManus

27 – We would ALL be so lucky as to perform Death of a Salesman in a Bennigans?

27:30 – Why acting? Transformation!

30 – Ben can't get his Shakespeare plays about English kings straight

32 – Acting, part two: externality and infinity!

35:15 – The Arthur Miller Special

39 – Possibly the first religious turn Shaggin' Flies has taken

45 – We are all wearing masks and performing, whether it be stage, gender, or interpersonally

51:30 – The difference between stage acting and screen acting

57 – Poetry!

1:00 – Zach is lost and returned

1:05 – Watching the super bowl with Dylan Baker

1:12:15 – Meeting Jim Thome > Meeting Barack Obama

1:13 – Baseball drawings! ([email protected])

1:17 – Why baseball? It is the beauty of renaissance painting combined with the apollonian perfection of Newtonian physics

1:25 – The clarity of the drama

1:29:00 – Favorite Phillies players (Jimmy Rollins love)

1:32 – Ballparks

1:38:30 – Order of Operations Trifecta

1:53 – Baseball movies

2:00 – Ghosts, multiple

2:04 – Making rules about seeing ghosts or not

2:12 – Superpowers

2:15 – The Full Count!

* Ellen's Book Recommendation: Cloud Atlas (shoutout Ulysses!)

* Ellen's Food Recommendation: Bún

* Ellen's Movies/TV Recommendation: Maniac

* Ellen's Music Recommendation: 4Keus

* Ellen's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Thinking of life in terms of narrative

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1 – Do people actually care about the Crosstown Classic?

3 – The Sara Sanchez story, originating in Utah

5 – Michael Hermosillo robs Andrew Vaughn of a home run, and Zach forgets that the game he was just watching is not at Wrigley Field

6 – On Wrigley Field

10:30 – Things we don't like: running baseball teams like McKinsey consultants

15 – The walking elote at the park formerly known as U.S. Cellular field is the best food in baseball, including the crab dip waffle fries

15:45 – Sara knows what a bohtini is!

19 – On Cheladas

21 – Battle of the Chicago hot dog part 8

25 – Flavored Malort

27 – Debate! And its benefits.

30:30 – Book chapters on disinformation

38:30 – The Best and Worst of debaters

42 – Why baseball?

44 – The Sandberg Game

47:30 – Commissioner Sara wants to pay minor leaguers and end blackouts.

1:00 – MLB owners suck

1:04 – The Ricketts especially

1:08 – Order of Operations trifecta!

1:15 – Why A League of Their Own is great

1:29 – John C. McGinty or John C. Reilly?

1:31:30 – Jair Jurrjens throws a no-hitter

1:33 – UFO sighting!

1:35 – A remembrance

1:37 – Advice for writing

1:45 – Sadly, high school teachers can't laugh at their students

1:47:30 – M*********** doesn't start with a B! (Sorry Nick, couldn't bleep this one, pretend it's satellite radio)

1:50 – The Full Count!

* Sara's Book Recommendation: The Lord of the Rings

* Sara's Food Recommendation: Hatch, New Mexico Green Chile

* Sara's Movies/RV Recommendation: Battlestar Galactica

* Sara's Music Recommendation: Tom Petty

* Sara's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Walking!+

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2 –  a long intro on names, how they're pronounced, and where they come from

11:30 – Kansas City is cool

13 – What's in Delaware?

15 – The origin story

23 – has dived

25 – what matters is you

30 – golf

35 – brian the plant doctor

41 – why baseball

52 – on will clark

55 – ballparks

58 – malort

1:01 – commissioner bubba

1:09 – order of operations trifecta

1:14 – we lose ben and it's pretty funny

1:19 – strong opinions on baseball movies

1:22 – déjà vu is not a ghost but it's something

1:26 – on metallica

1:30 – important lesson about writing – don't be scared

1:37 – The Full Count

* Brian's Book Recommendation: Live From New York: An Uncensored History of Saturday Night Live

* Brian's Music Recommendation: Metallica

* Brian's Movies/TV Recommendation: Breaking Bad/Goodfellas

* Brian's Food Recommendation: Tripas Tacos

* Brian's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Get organized!

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1 – Let's cut the BS y'all, fantasy sports are gambling

2 – Straight into the deep end with ten minutes about gambling, DFS, fantasy sports, and being an analyst

13 – Who Is Justin Mason?

15 – From D.C. to the Army to NorCal!

17 – Mission Accomplished!!1!1!

19 – On addiction and recovery

21 – Disclaimer!

25 – On the importance of being yourself in your writing

26 – Taking over for Eno Sarris, no pressure

27 – What. Is. The. Deal. With. Those. Shirts?

30:30 – When someone approaches you to talk about the Freemasons, it feels like a slippery slope towards anti-Semitic OneWorld conspiracies at the like

35 – The height disparity between Ben and Zach is gonna be weird to gauge when we finally meet IRL

37 – A reminder that Ben is 30 and I am 12

42:30 – If this show has a track, it's this one

44 – History of TGFBI and Tout Wars

51:30 – Nick Pollack, not unlike Nick Cannon, is spreading his seed far and wide

56 – It makes for GREAT radio/podcasting when Zach freezes in a funny pose

57 – I'm actually way too lazy to edit the whole part out so enjoy the 90 seconds where we try to figure out why there are two Zachs in the studio

1:02 – Why baseball? Do what you're good at!

1:09 – Balancing fantasy analysis in different sports

1:17 – Michael Carter-Williams?

1:20 – Burnout is real!

1:24 – Paul Sporer is not listening to this podcast

1:30 – We Love Hunter Pence

1:32 – Jeremy Affeldt and weird baseball injuries

1:36 – Favorite stadiums – Oracle is pretty dang nice

1:38 – ENOUGH WITH THE HISTORY MAJORS

1:45 – Justin Mason is Commissioner of Baseball and there are No More Unwritten Rules

1:51 – If it's a standard from the segregation era, it's probably not great!

1:58 – Order of Operations trifecta!

2:03:30 – Ben insists on continuing to refer to waterless toothbrushing as "raw dogging it"

2:05 – Justin DEFINITELY saw a ghost

2:10 – Still a dearth of fast food chicken sandwich takes :/

2:15 – RIP Stephen Hillenberg

2:20 – Removing the stigma around profanity

2:21:30 – Justin's daughter with some truly inventive language

2:29 – The Full Count!

* Justin's Book Recommendation: The Color of Water by James McBride [https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-color-of-water-a-black-mans-tribute-to-his-white-mother_james-mcbride/246695/?resultid=2c7cd5e1-f8fb-4b5f-a9d9-c70ee25e5d6c#edition=2987507&idiq=2949034]

* Justin's Food Recommendation: Sushi

* Justin's Movies/TV Recommendation: The West Wing [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0200276/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1]

* Justin's Music Recommendation: Miscellaneous Grunge

* Justin's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Being of service

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Enjoy episode 18 of Shaggin' Flies, featuring Sarah Griffin (@skg_18), whose work you can find here [https://linktr.ee/sarah22griffin], as we cover an uncountable number of completely inane topics, including:

1:15 – Ben begins the pod with a handy lesson on figuring out how to deal with delays

2:00 – Silver the 20-year old calico cat sets a new record for podcast interruption

3:20 – Why have we non-Massholes probably heard of Watertown, MA? 😳

5:30 – Ben just now learns that Zach lived in Providence until last October; Sarah indulges Zach's weird fascination with New England culture and explains the difference between all of the states

8:45 – A super awkward and sudden segue into writing careers

9:15 – The story of how all three of us accidentally stumbled into history degrees

10:15 – Ben's college advisor was NOT doing their job

12:00 – Student teaching in a nutshell: "are you new?"

15:00 – AP Style vs. Marxist theory in Communications programs

17:00 – Boomer Red Sox fans are a notoriously welcoming group of fans

21:00 – Zach's camera takes offense to John Means

22:00 – Why hockey is cool

26:00 – The truths and untruths in Massachusetts stereotypes

29:00 – The legend of Traffic Jam Jimmy

30:30 – Boston drivers are indeed a MENACE

32:30 – Weekly reminder that I Am Baby

34:00 – Is it normal to care about other peoples' windshield wipers?

35:15 – We interrupt this program to talk about Zach's tire flying off on the highway the other day

39:00 – Service industry horror stories

42:00 – Ma'am, this is, in fact, a Chili's

47:00 – US Labor law is something, isn't it.

48:00 – Why baseball? It's something you grow up with!

51:15 – Championship parades really are the best

54:00 – The AL East Grievance Hour

1:00:30 – Is Maryland the South???

1:05:30 – Wisconsin does not get enough credit for their absolutely batshit drinking culture

1:09:00 – We made the questionable decision to record during Game Six of the NBA Finals

1:10:15 – Rebranding as GiannisList

1:11:00 – Breaking the news of the Mookie Betts trade to the state trooper that pulled Sarah over

1:14:00 – Which is a better story than getting pulled over on the Ohio Turnpike while listening to Mrs. Officer

1:15:45 – Miller Park > Camden Yards #MidwestSupremacy

1:17:15 – The Great Crab Dip Waffle Fries vs. Chicago Hot Dog Debate Part 18

1:19:45 – Guinness Blonde is made in Baltimore?

1:20:45 – We don't do plugs, but we do give shoutouts to 18th century colonizers

1:21:15 – Order of Operations trifecta!

1:26:00 – Sandlot slander, etc

1:29:00 – Is it bad or is it funny?

1:32:00 – What's the real story of the One Direction breakup?

1:33:00 – There is a zero percent chance the oldest house on Cape Cod is NOT haunted

1:36:00 – The difference between Muppets and Sesame Street

1:39:00 – On chicken sandwiches and other important topics

1:40:30 – We ALL used to be geeks about the Presidents

1:44:00 – Presidential fun fact bonanza

1:45:30 – Everyone in Watertown knows Whitey Bulger

1:47:30 – Equal amounts of excitement for the Bucks winning an NBA championship and the White Sox completing an eighth inning comeback against the Twins

1:49:00 – Self-editing is hard but important!

1:53:00 – Wedding crashers by way of playing the children's game Manhunt

1:55:00 – The Full Count!

* Sarah's Book Recommendation: Big Hair and Plastic Grass: A Funky Ride T [https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/big-hair-and-plastic-grass-a-funky-ride-through-baseball-and-america-in-the-swinging-70s_dan-epstein/573111/?resultid=e481fb92-436e-41ac-bc78-179d2f5a53fe#edition=7202988&idiq=10302732]

In Which Zach Accidentally Deletes The Word Doc With All The Episode Notes

So, Here's A Recording Of Game Four Of The 2005 World Series Instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaAsMEN7qbA

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2:45 – Plugs and gassing up

4:15 – The history of Locked On Orioles

6 – In Praise of the Google Form

7:30 – Making it through the pandemic with the 2012 MLB playoffs

12:15 – Love to Odrisamer Despaigne

15:15 – College and minor league broadcasting is pretty cool!

17 – Ode to the Bowie Baysox

21 – How times have changed since Matt Wieters

25:15 – Trying thing in college is cool

29 – You gotta remember your best calls

31 – In appreciation of radio broadcasting

35:15 – I Am Once Again Asking Announcers To Make A Little Bit Of Effort To Learn How To Pronounce Names

37 – Oh, Ed Farmer

39:30 – Slander for Scott Garceau and FP Santangelo

44 – Shoutout Don Orsillo

48:15 – We Love Gus Johnson

50 – The Great Joe Buck Debate

55:30 – Ben imitates Tim McCarver reading Metallica lyrics

58:30 – Why Baseball?

59 – It's relaxing! You get down time!

1:06 – Shoutout Erik Bedard and Adam Jones

1:08:30 – Oriole legend Steve Pearce

1:12:15 – Twelve minutes of Chris Davis

1:24 – Thoughts on the rebuild?

1:27 – Brady Anderson?

1:33 – Yeah, the Yankees aren't running out Travis Hafner and Vernon Wells anymore

1:37:15 – We all run into Jim Thome in an elevator sometimes

1:41 – College baseball is dope (and Silver makes her weekly appearance)

1:44 – Comerica Park has a merry-go-round on the concourse

1:45 – Order of Operations Trifecta!

1:49 – We need a Ben's Wife Reaction Cam

1:56 – Zach the horribly sad conflation between Fab Melo and Melo Trimble

1:57 – Zach goes Back to Back and pronounces GIF like JIFF and it's so bad I had to censor it

1:57:30 – As per usual, Moneyball is good, also as per usual, the Sandlot is overrated

2:01 – What would it be like to actually have an off-the-record, one-on-one with Chris Davis?

2:03 – The Full Count!

* Connor's Book Recommendation: The MVP Machine [https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-mvp-machine-how-baseballs-new-nonconformists-are-using-data-to-build-better-players_travis-sawchik_ben-lindbergh/19686996/?resultid=fe9fcf90-98f1-48d8-80dd-c3d13450557f#edition=24727406&idiq=37579337]

* Connor's Food Recommendation: Grab & Go Taco [https://www.grabandgotaco.com/]

* Connor's Music Recommendation: Superstore [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4477976/]

* Connor's Music/TV Recommendation: Culture III [https://open.spotify.com/album/3uyOwJu4r3yroAkFywNFM3]

* Connor's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Watching the night sky at Cherry Spring State Park [https://www.google.com/search?q=cherry+spring+state+park&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS913US913&sxsrf=ALeKk02ps33T-ixmtxhRQBxOkXJUdcH5bQ:1623949106214&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFo-XskZ_xAhXbWM0KHbkpDXQQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1366&bih=657]

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3 – Cleveland gets a bad rap!

5 – Why do we all hate Cleveland again?

6:30 – CC is the goat

9 – The Black MLB Players you need to know about series

9:30 – Aaaaand he's gone

11:30 – The Lindor trade is a garbage thing to have to write a second article about

17 – Jumping from film to journalism and all similar creative endeavors

21 – Behind Tangible_Uno, aka, we all get in trouble for pissing off Curt Schilling

23 – In support of Alice in Chains

26 – Favorite Anime/Manga

28 – Bad wifi will be the death of us all!

30 – Appreciation for Heat, Memento, and Michael Mann

35 – Why baseball?

35:30 – Chaos!

39:30 – We're all basically writing book reports

43:30 – Commissioner Pat is looking out for Minor Leaguers and front office and ballpark workers

47 – The Order of Operations Trifecta

51:45 – Jackie Robinson was a much, much better baseball player than actor

54:30 – Joakim Noah on Cleveland

57:30 – On being emotionally wounded by Jeremy Guthrie

59:30 – Benevolent ghosts

1:02:30 – Zach questions the usefulness of invulnerability

1:04 – Respect to Janet Jackson and Sadé

1:07 – The Full Count!

* Patrick's Book Recommendation: House of Leaves [https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/house-of-leaves-by-mark-z-danielewski/251528/?resultid=de4dbb23-a366-48f8-9985-cfd5ce528bd4#edition=2375971&idiq=103722] by Mark Danielewski

* Patrick's Food Recommendation: Steak and Lobster

* Patrick's Music Recommendation: The Price of Tea in China [https://open.spotify.com/album/52yTF9qryiuTlSNqhHObgd] by Boldy James & The Alchemist

* Patrick's Movies/TV Recommendation: The Wire [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306414/]

* Patrick's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Minor League Baseball!

1:15:30 – Wrapping up with the Great Pickle/Hot Dog Debate Part 391.3

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* 2:00 – Opening with good vibes by remembering the time Nick forgot to record Zac Gallen's side of a podcast interview

* 5:00 – Reminiscing on the Slack days

* 6:00 – Pitcher List meetup!

* 6:45 – Nick is from Brooklyn but doesn't have an accent

* 7:30 – Nick puts a watermelon inside of a stroller to fit in in Brooklyn

* 9:00 – What if it was a Doberman in a stroller instead of a "pocket dog" 👀

* 11:30 – Shoutout to all the other Psych majors/CompSci minors

* 12:30 – Let's be clear—Midnight Agenda is a booty call and not a reference to witchcraft

* 13:00 – Ben Palmer knows all the skeletons in the Pitcher List closet, including the name of Nick's old band name

* 16:30 – When Ben is short for… Benton?

* 17:30 – Zac(h) goes down BAD at Starbucks

* 21:30 – Progressive Metal go harddddddd

* 24:00 – A truly impeccable analogy between catchy music and healthy eating

* 26:00 – Zach samples Cannibal Corpse and Ben takes issue with Yngwie Malmsteen

* 29:00 – All genres are beautiful!

* 31:45 – It should indeed probably be called White Metal

* 33:30 – Certain chord progressions are corny

* 34:30 – Zach is a basic bitch in his musical tastes

* 36:30 – You've never listened to Porcupine Tree or Pineapple Thief?

* 40:30 – Nick does NOT care for flutes

* 41:30 – The history of Pitcher List, according to the founder of Pitcher List

* 46:00 – Ooooooooohhhhh imposter syndrome!

* 47:15 – WHY WOULD YOU SUGGEST I START AUSTIN GOMBER OVER NATHAN EOVALDI

* 48:00 – Fantasy blame and toxic fandom

* 50:45 – A cease and desist from MLB?

* 52:00 – Nick has Washington Post bylines, what have you done lately?

* 56:00 – Sorry Nick, we're UNIONIZING

* 59:00 – The short-lived article series titled Hit It or Quit It

* 59:30 – Fireworks (that you can't hear) make Zach almost fall out his chair (that you can't see)

* 1:00:00 – Weekly shoutout to the 15 loyal listeners!

* 1:04:00 – Division III life!

* 1:10:00 – Why baseball? Because pitching is so cool!

* 1:11:00 – And also when pitching, you get to be the center of attention

* 1:13:30 – In which baseball is like Yu-Gi-Oh

* 1:19:00 – Pitching is the greatest position and also the worst position

* 1:21:00 – The time Dan Wharthen's wife said his butt looked good

* 1:22:00 – Nick loves a good ol' slider

* 1:24:45 – And also the perfectly placed 3-2 Chris Sale changeup to Mike Trout that wound up a grand slam anyway

* 1:29:00 – Does it get any better than chicken tenders and fries at Citi Field?

* 1:30:00 – The Great Chicago Hot Dog/Crab Dip Waffle Fry Debate, Part 69

* 1:32:30 – Modeling windups on David Cone and Tim Lincecum

* 1:34:00 – We made it all the way to episode fourteen before revealing that Jim Palmer is Ben's father

* 1:35:30 – Order of Operations trifecta

* 1:38:15 – Zach keeps fantasizing on his cereal-before-milk supercut

* 1:39:00 – Spitballing baseball movies and the misleading, manipulative plot of Bull Durham

* 1:44:00 – An INCREDIBLE League of Their Own pun

* 1:48:00 – Quantum physics is crazy, man

* 1:50:30 – Nick's superpower: selective omniscience

* 1:52:00 – Writing and analysis advice: sit down, be humble!

* 1:58:00 – The Full Count!

* Nick's Book Recommendation: How To Win Friends And Influence People [https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/how-to-win-friends-and-influence-people-by-dale-carnegie/249355/?resultid=82af6bd5-5a9f-4e56-bd08-8a9a617f9f6c#isbn=0671027034] by Dale Carnegie

* Nick's Food Recommendation: Al Di La [http://www.aldilatrattoria.com/] in Park Slope, Brooklyn

* Nick's Movies/TV Recommendation:

* 1 – Anthony Santander appreciation

* 3 – Shoutout William Henry Harrison

* 7 – Answering emails as a fantasy analyst is different when you have kids

* 9 – Imposter syndrome!

* 11 – Cursed league

* 12 – Tony Kornheiser: JUST DO IT

* 13 – Y'all don't wanna know what my DMs look like

* 14 – The Story of DJ

* 15 – Ben begins a forty minute mid-podcast game of fetch

* 18 – Yes, Dear was an underrated sitcom

* 19 – The animals run the show here

* 20 – The Joy of college radio

* 25:45 – Echoooo

* 28 – Turn up at Salisbury

* 32:30 – Who's good at de-escalating? Not police! Also, time to talk music.

* 34:30 – Shoutout Rancid

* 37 – Music as cultural currency, and why the music we listen to when we're younger sticks with us

* 40 – It's the cat's turn to say hi

* 41:45 – An elegy for mixtapes

* 43 – I am child (and as old as Ben's brother)

* 48 – Being surprised on the radio

* 50 – Late millennials went from limewire to paying Apple $10 a month 😐

* 51:30 – How do we know what jeans are cool in a pandemic when nobody's outside?

* 52:45 – Ben and DJ are LOVING the Dad fantasy

* 57 – Attempting to send reviews to Pitchfork, getting two thumbs down

* 57:30 – Why baseball?

* 1:02 – Francisco Lindor is batting .313 over his last 3 games

* 1:04:30 – Jarred Kelenic and Mets fan pain

* 1:06 – The Washington Football Team has gotten a weird amount of airtime on this show

* 1:08 – Justin Fields is my president

* 1:11 – Shake Shack at City Field

* 1:13 – Getting kicked out of the Coca Cola Corner at Citi Field for vaping

* 1:16 – DJ Short is now the commissioner of baseball, and has some interesting rule changes

* 1:20 – Zach does a terrible job of explaining an even more poorly conceived extra inning idea

* 1:23 – Ben does magic fingers and gives DJ the impression that we have sound effects

* 1:23:30 – Van Gogh leads to Dad Jokes

* 1:26 – Ben's kid 1, Ben 0

* 1:27:15 – Order of operations trifecta!

* 1:33 – Most baseball movies suck, especially awkwardly watching Bull Durham with your parents

* 1:37 – Sugar is the only good baseball movie, really.

* 1:41 – Reconsidering how we talk about players, as fans and analysts

* 1:45:45 – Randy and Dennis Quaid are VERY different

* 1:46:30 – We got a ghost story guys!!!!

* 1:49:15 – The most altruistic superpower imaginable (kind of Captain Planet-esque)

* 1:51:45 – Beeker is hilarious and Zach is Beeker

* 1:54:45 – Scandal noted

* 1:56:15 – Writing advice—know when to walk away!

* 2:00:30 – Hey @CraigCalcaterra wanna come on Shaggin' Flies?

* 2:02 – Note to self: don't fall in the giant hole while stealing pumpkins

* 2:04 -- The Full Count!

* DJ's Book Recommendation: Swing Kings by Jared Diamond [https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/swing-kings-the-inside-story-of-baseballs-home-run-revolution_jared-diamond/22782868/?resultid=2cfeedf4-889d-4c7a-9f53-21b1c5489bf8#isbn=0062872117]

* DJ's Food Recommendation: Paulie Gee's [https://pauliegee.com/greenpoint/]

* DJ's Movie Recommendation: The Sounds of Metal [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5363618/]/Ozark [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5071412/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1]

* DJ's Music Recommendation: A Billion Little Lights [https://open.spotify.com/album/5Hj9DO1au6m5BcdosyjODG]by [https://open.spotify.com/album/5Hj9DO1au6m5BcdosyjODG]Wild Pink [https://open.spotify.com/album/5Hj9DO1au6m5BcdosyjODG];