In this very educative, fun, and filled with wisdom discussion, Matthew and I discuss the magical realm of the intersection between Shamanism & Herbalism. - Matthew's calling into Herbalism & Shamanism - From being a Quaker to Herbalism as a platform to connect with Nature - Seven Herbs, Plants as Teachers, the intersection of Plants & Myth - Plant Dieta and learning wisdom from Plants - Herbalist or Wizard? - Knowing the plants who can kill you and those who can heal you - The different ways to be an Herbalist - The separation from land, plants and how we criminalized Nature - 4 plants to work with for your Health - Harvesting sustainably