Melbourne duo Zara McDonald and Michelle Andrews are the founders of Shameless Media.

In March 2018 they launched the Shameless Podcast, which has gone on to become a cultural phenomenon, and a thriving media empire.

Michelle and Zara sat down with Jules and Antony to discuss the story behind Shameless, from episode one, marketing the show with stickers in uni toilets, the episode which changed everything, managing their influence, leaving their jobs and going full-time plus how they approach each episode. They were incredibly generous with their time and dish up invaluable advice to anyone in podcasting, from two of the most switched on people in the business.

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Here are some of the ways you can enjoy Shameless:

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Book club

Facebook Group

Influential Instagram

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The Space Between Book

Zara recommends these podcasts:

The Daily

The Cut

Michelle recommends this podcast:

Dying for Sex

Shameless record their podcast on:

Adobe Audition

They started out using the Scarlet 2i2 Studio audio recorder

Using Blue Yeti Microphones remotely and the Rode Procaster in person

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