Orange County's CU Chief Lending Officer Jeff Harper tells us what it takes to grow a credit card program.

Also, it's allergy talk as Natasha and Michael discuss their itchy, drowsy week that was.

Chief Experience Officer Brian Melter discusses how his CU is building financially healthy lives for its members.

Also, Michael talks recipes while Natasha discusses the current title holder for lopsided cute name to disturbing content ratio, "Baby Reindeer".

Everyone's feeling nostalgic this week as Natasha watches "Priscilla" and recalls hearing about Elvis' death six years before her birth, while Michael opts for something more warm and fuzzy, the heartwarming story of a priest helping a little girl find herself (but can she help him rediscover his faith?), 1973's "The Exorcist".

The NCUA's head of Minority and Women Inclusion speaks about his vision of making credit unions a better version of themselves.

Also, Natasha is snowed in...again! She shares her thoughts on the glory of not working on East Coast time, while Michael reminisces about perhaps the finest film named in his honor, Steve Martin's classic "The Jerk".

Small credit union consultant Walter Merkle shares his concerns - and hope - for financial cooperatives with $50 million or less in assets. Plus, he gets us all dreaming about shrimp and grits, black-eyed peas and Spanish moss as he shares his love of the South and current home of Savannah, Ga.

And for a spooky Episode 13, Natasha's house may be haunted by a creaky door ghost and Michael channels his inner angry mother before setting himself up for disappointment by enjoying "Mindhunter" without realizing it ends by setting up a third season that will never come.

In his first year at NACUSO, Ronaldo Hardy shares his view for "brand clarity" and his roadmap ahead.

Meanwhile, a snowed in Natasha pays homage to her French heritage by watching Joaquin Phoenix play Napoleon and Michael picks a losing fight with his producer.

Fintel Connect CEO and Founder Nicky Senyard shares her thoughts on new CFPB guidance on comparison-shopping tools, the role of gender in fintech leadership … and why she'd never delete the Apple Books app from her phone.

Also, it's bears on Halloween, brides-to-be on "90 Day Fiancé", and Bernstein played by Bradley Cooper as Natasha and Michael discuss their week that was.

Members Choice Credit Union CIO Ralph Owens discusses how credit unions can transform their IT departments into valued partners...and shares his love for a certain Texas road trip stop.

Also, it's a battle of the boybands on Netflix as Natasha's secret love of Nick Lachey's magnum opus "Love is Blind" clashes with Michael's overt disgust for 2023 Justin Timberlake film "Reptile". Who will win? And where is Nick Carter in all of this?

Associate Professor at DePaul University and Filene Fellow Lamont Black (definitely not a big dummy) believes credit unions must stop sitting on the sidelines with AI.

Also, Michael gives his very incorrect opinion on 2006 Nicolas Cage masterpiece "The Wicker Man" while Natasha can't stop thinking about those baby eagles at Big Bear.

Ron Shevlin of Cornerstone Advisors brings clarity to a convoluted space where both credit unions and fintechs fight for relevance.