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In this episode of the podcast, Jessica and Laura finish their discussion on the book, Everyday Narcissism. They define traits of vulnerable narcissism, including people pleasing. Laura shares how this has been a personal struggle for much of her life.
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Everyday Narcissism: Distractions and Boundaries
Laura and Jessica discussed chapters 9-14 of a book on everyday narcissism, focusing on distractions and emotional regulation. They explored how various activities can be both helpful and harmful depending on context, with Jessica emphasizing the importance of self-awareness in choosing distractions. They also touched on topics like setting boundaries and teaching children responsibility.
Coping Through Exercise and Academics
Laura and Jessica discussed their experiences with using exercise, particularly running, as a coping mechanism for stress and negative emotions. Laura shared how running became a crutch for managing mental health but ultimately led to physical injuries. They explored the concept of turning coping skills into idols, with Jessica suggesting that emotional distress can manifest in physical symptoms. The conversation also touched on Jessica's progress in her academic work, including her upcoming graduation and the requirements for her literature review, which includes extensive reference lists.
Coaching's Roots in Counseling History
Jessica discussed her research on the history of coaching, which she discovered began in the 1980s, the same time professional counseling separated itself as a distinct field with required education and licensure. She found that coaching techniques are derived from counseling and psychotherapy methods, particularly client-centered therapy and solution-focused behavioral therapy. Jessica is writing a 25-page literature review that highlights the similarities between coaching and counseling, emphasizing that professional counselors can leverage coaching skills to be more effective while also being able to bill insurance.
Understanding and Expressing Anger
Jessica and Laura discussed the nature of anger and its expression, drawing parallels to the book "Enemies of the Heart." Jessica explained that anger, when not addressed properly, can lead to isolation and poor relationships, and emphasized the importance of understanding the underlying emotions driving anger. They explored how anger can be used as a distraction from deeper pain and how it often stems from situations like being hurt, embarrassed, or betrayed. Jessica shared a personal anecdote about a child's anger and its root causes, highlighting the need for healthy ways to express anger. They also discussed the concept that anger is not inherently wrong but becomes problematic when it's held onto or expressed disrespectfully, and the importance of taking action to address the underlying issue.
Overcoming Fear and Emotional Awareness
Laura and Jessica discussed the nature of fear and its impact on emotional awareness and decision-making. Jessica explained that fear, while useful for protecting against physical danger, can be a distraction from emotional experiences when it becomes chronic. They explored Laura's specific fear of heights and open spaces, which Jessica suggested might stem from a need for control. Jessica recommended exposure therapy as a way to overcome fears, suggesting activities like rock climbing and hiking. Laura expressed a desire to confront her fears and participate in activities like parasailing, with Jessica offering to support her in this process.
Overcoming Fear and People Pleasing
Jessica and Laura discussed the nature of fear and people pleasing. Jessica emphasized that fear is a mental state and can be controlled through thought management. They explored how avoiding feared situations can actually increase fear. Laura shared personal experiences overcoming workplace fears. They discussed the concept of "victim energy" and its three distractions, including people pleasing. Jessica strongly criticized people pleasing as manipulative and selfish, explaining how it creates
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Childhood Lying Experiences and Influences
Jessica and Laura discussed personal experiences with lying, particularly in childhood, and how societal and family pressures can influence honesty. Jessica shared her experience of being taught to lie at a young age to avoid punishment, while Laura recounted being coached to lie by her grandmother to impress others. They also touched on the concept of lying as a survival mechanism in certain social contexts. The conversation included a brief mention of Jessica's recent illness and her dog's health issues.
Childhood Attachments and Adult Relationships
Jessica and Laura discussed their experiences with childhood attachment issues and how they affect their adult relationships. Jessica shared how her mother's secure attachment was overshadowed by her father's neglect, leading to trust issues and a pattern of attracting partners who engage in future-faking. Laura described her father's inconsistent presence and promises, which also impacted her ability to trust. They explored how these childhood experiences influence their current relationships and emotional well-being. The conversation touched on the importance of self-care and setting boundaries while navigating the needs of others.
Truth, Faith, and Professional Growth
Jessica and Laura discussed the importance of discerning truth and maintaining a relationship with God, emphasizing the need for absolute truth in a world of relative perspectives. Jessica shared her personal experiences and beliefs about moral teachings and the role of the Holy Spirit in guiding decisions. Laura mentioned her upcoming transition from Lot 25 and the pushback she has faced from family, which Jessica interpreted as a sign of growth and development. They also discussed the value of listening and intuition in their professional roles, with Jessica highlighting how the Holy Spirit provides insights during client interactions.
Overcoming Victim Mentality and Growth
Jessica and Laura discussed the concept of victim energy and its impact on personal growth and relationships. Jessica shared her personal experiences with overcoming victim mentality and the importance of making conscious choices. Laura expressed her realization of codependent patterns in her relationships and the struggle to assert her authenticity while facing societal pressures. They explored the role of shame in their lives, particularly how societal expectations and personal guilt influence their decisions. Both agreed on the significance of self-compassion, making intentional choices, and seeking personal growth through prayer and reflection.
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This is an extra special episode of the podcast! Our discussion takes place in Belize, with participants of the LOT25 Foundation service trip.
Our group discusses the four myths of narcissism:
Myth 1: We are responsible for- and have the power to control- how other people behave.
Myth 2: Other people are responsible for- and have the power to control- the way we feel and behave.
Myth 3: The needs and wants of other people are more important than our own.
Myth 4: Following the rules is also more important than addressing our own needs and feelings.
Many share their own personal experiences, laughter, and some tears. It is a healing conversation.
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In this episode of the podcast, Laura and Jess discuss the first two chapters of Everyday Narcissism. Topics covered include:
Understanding Narcissism: Clinical vs. Everyday
Controlling Others: A Myth Busted
Child Development and Narcissism
Understanding Narcissism in Relationships
Emotional Management and Release Strategies
Understanding Children's Emotional Needs
Overcoming Toxic Myths of Love
Authenticity and Belonging Through Faith
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Jessica and Laura discuss chapter 8 of the Emotionally Healthy Spirituality book, including experiences with:
Emotional Maturity in Spiritual Formation
Faith-Driven Healing Journey
Emotional Maturity in Adolescents
Compromise and Respect in Relationships
Emotional Maturity in Conflict Resolution
Embracing Conflict for True Peace
Building Respectful Household Relationships
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In this episode of the podcast, Jessica and Laura discuss the stages of emotional maturity and their traits. They describe personal life situations where they have recognized these stages. Jessica offers some professional advice on how to overcome emotional immaturity.
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In this episode of the podcast, Jessica and Laura discuss the importance of honoring the Sabbath and taking a day of rest. The book, Emotionally Healthy Spirituality, defines rest, as well as describes different types of rest. Did you know that the Sabbath can be any 24 hour period during your week? Many choose to honor it on Sunday but that doesn't always work for everyone! Enjoy our conversation on how to make this practice consistent in your life.
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In this episode, Jessica and Laura discuss the chapter on "How to Enlarge Your Soul Through Grief and Loss". As stated in the book, loss is "a place where self-knowledge and powerful transformation can happen. Paying attention to our losses enlarges our souls-- when we pour them out before the Lord (see Psalm 62:8) and participate in what God wants to do in us."
Over the course of our lifetimes, we experience a variety of "deaths". While our culture receives these as interrupting events, Jesus invites us to be transformed through them. Staying close to Him during these challenging moments can open up new possibilities and transform us in ways we cannot predict.
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"Going Through the Wall"
Jessica and Laura discuss the concept of "the wall" from the Emotionally Healthy Spirituality book. They also shared their experiences with aging, personal growth, and spiritual growth stages, emphasizing the importance of faith, obedience, and sacrifice. The conversation concluded with reflections on personal challenges, the importance of integrity, and the power of positive thinking in relation to biblical stories.
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Hey Y'all! This is our podcast about finding wholeness and healing from unresolved trauma.
I'm Jess and this is my cohost, Laura, and we are her to have an open and honest conversation about…
I am a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor and Laura is an Early Childhood Development Professor, and together we are going to be discussing books that have helped us overcome our fears and taught us how to embrace our authentic selves.
We combine academic research, biblical truth, and personal experiences to help others grow in their faith and develop resilience against the darkness of this world.
Faith is the assurance of things hoped for and the conviction of things unseen. Faith is what heals betrayal and builds trust.
When we find ourselves unable to trust, we are oftentimes left feeling confused and alone. We are lost and wandering, looking for ways to put our seemingly shattered lives back together.
For myself and Laura, the answer was, and still is, Jesus.
Trust is the foundation for all healthy and balanced relationships and if you want to have healthy and balanced relationships, you need to be, in fact, healthy and balanced.
As a counselor, my priority is helping my clients learn how to trust themselves and the decisions they make. This begins with making a commitment to your journey through the many stages of growth and development no matter how messy and uncertain things may seem.
It means making choices that lead you in the direction of your desired destinations and holding yourself accountable to, and responsible for, those choices; even when they produce undesirable outcomes.
This means simultaneously accepting moments of failure and celebrating moments of success.
In order to successfully function in life we must learn to be flexible and adaptable to the changes happening around us, and we can do this much better when we know who we are and why we are here.
You have a purpose and my purpose is to speak life into you until you discover who you were created to be!