She Said

She Said

By Katie + KenzBusiness
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She Said episodes

  • Check-In with Katie

    Learn a little more about Katie today! She’s in the hot seat as Kenz asks about her personal life, career and everything in between. Later, we talk about our recent accomplishments and share what we’re reading, watching and listening to.

    Media mentions:

    • “The Mothers” by Brit Bennett 
    • Grey’s Anatomy (2005-present) 
    • Law & Order: SVU (1999-present) 
    • Good Trouble (2019-present) 
    • Fearless (Taylor’s Version) (2021) 
    • “Parable of the Sower” by Octavia Butler
    • Gilmore Girls (2000-2007) 
    • Mythology podcast from Parcast Network 
      • 1 hr 8 min
    • 3—She said, “All along you were blooming."

      This week, Katie + Kenz discuss the life and work of Morgan Harper Nichols, a musician, artist, and poet who caught our eyes on Instagram and continues to inspire across all platforms. She truly is a marketing expert, and her artwork is magical. Stick around to the end to hear us whine about it and share our sweet as w(h)ines for the week.

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      Media mentions:

      • https://morganharpernichols.com
      • Instagram
      • Twitter
      • TikTok
      • YouTube
      • Pinterest
      • Facebook
        • 56 min
      • Check-In with Aubree Taylor Green and Madisen Hinegardner

        Check-in with us and two savvy and creative entrepreneurs! Aubree Taylor Green is a photographer and Madisen Hinegardner is a videographer; the two primarily work with couples on their wedding days and have been known to partner up to produce beautiful work. Katie + Kenz ask them all about their businesses, how they collaborate and the role social media plays in their businesses’ success. They share helpful advice and indulge us with their recent accomplishments and what they’re reading, watching and listening to. Check below to follow their work.

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        Media mentions:

        • Madisen Lynn Videography
        • Aubree Taylor Photography 
        • “Girl Code: Unlocking the Secrets to Success, Sanity, and Happiness for the Female Entrepreneur” by Cara Alwill Leyba, Em Eldridge 
        • “The Confidence Code: The Science and Art of Self-Assurance – What Women Should Know” by Katty Kay, Claire Shipman 
        • What We Said podcast 
        • My Favorite Murder podcast (listen to the She Said episode on this one!) 
          • 1 hr 6 min
        • 4—She said, “Public spaces for all. Now."

          This week, Katie + Kenz talk about what it means to take up space. We dive into different spaces and share important articles that you can find under the media mentions below, plus some extras for further research. Hang out with us to the end to hear us whine about it and share our sweet as w(h)ines for the week.

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          Media mentions:

          • #STFUImSpeaking article
          • “Fast-track women’s participation in public life ‘for everyone's benefit’” from UN News
          • “The Story Behind Her: Journalist Polly Irungu on Taking Up Space as a Black Woman” on msmagazine.com 
          • “How 7 Women Take Up Space In Their Everyday Lives” from Refinery29
          • “I deserve to take up space, and I make no apologies” from scarymommy.com
          • “Safe Spaces Now” campaign
          • "Why taking up space can help women close the pay gap" from Forbes
          • “What Happens When Women Start Taking Up Space? It’s revolutionary.” from Forge
          • “Untamed” by Glennon Doyle 
          • Chimamanda Ngozi Adiche’s work (website)
          • “Know My Name” by Chanel Miller 
            • 1 hr 14 min
          • Check-In 3.24.21

            Today, Katie + Kenz are checking in about something we both love: newsletters! Each day is spent sorting through our inboxes, so why not make it enjoyable? In this episode, you'll find our go-to subscriptions and why they're important to us. Finally, we'll share our recent accomplishments and discuss what we’re reading, watching and listening to.

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            Media mentions:

            • The Slate 
            • FictionMatters 
            • Novel Pairings
            • The Skimm 
            • Her first $100k 
            • Ann Friedman Weekly 
            • Anti-Racism Daily 
            • Morning Brew 
            • James Clear
            • 1 Million Women 
            • Elizabeth Lesser
            • The Brass Ring by Kara Cutruzzula 
            • Seth’s Blog by Seth Godin 
            • Word of the Day by Wordsmith
            • Gary Weekly by Gary Vaynerchuk 
            • The New York Times, Smarter Living and In Her Words
            • “These Violent Delights” by Chloe Gong 
            • Classics Club from Novel Pairings 
            • “So You Want To Talk About Race” by Ijeoma Oluo
            • "Originals" by Adam Grant
            • New Girl (2011)
            • Schitt's Creek (2015)
              • 1 hr 22 min
            • 3—She said, “Own your story, love yourself."

              This week, Katie + Kenz talk about Brené Brown's life, legacy, and podcast called "Unlocking Us with Brené Brown." Brown is a professor, researcher, author, speaker, and inspiration to many worldwide. To talk through some of her work, we both took the Daring Leadership Assessment, a  10-minute reflection to "help you gauge your strengths and your opportunities for growth as a daring leader." Stick with us to the end to hear us whine about it and share our sweet as w(h)ines for the week. 

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              Media mentions:

              • Unlocking Us with Brené Brown podcast
              • Dare To Lead podcast
              • "Brené Brown Signs Exclusive Podcast Deal With Spotify (Exclusive)"
              • Daring Leadership Assessment
              • Books by Brené Brown 
                • 1 hr 16 min
              • Check-In 3.10.21

                In our little corner of the world, we’ve hit the one-year mark of living with COVID-19. We CAN do hard things (to quote Glennon Doyle), but it feels extra difficult lately. Katie + Kenz check-in about Zoom and how we communicate in the workplace, then share a bit about our recent accomplishments. Lastly, we go through what we’re reading, watching and listening to.

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                Media mentions:

                • Zoom dos and don’ts 
                • “Know My Name” by Chanel Miller 
                • Outlander (2014-present) 
                • “More Myself” by Alicia Keys 
                • “Happy 10th anniversary, self” 
                • Juno (2007) 
                • Framing Britney Spears (2020) 
                • “Lips of an Angel” by Hinder 
                  • 1 hr 7 min
                • 2—She said, “So this is what you call a honeymoon?”
                  This week, Katie + Kenz talk about Shonda Rhimes and her empire, Shondaland. From her personal life to professional accolades, Rhimes has wowed us time and time again—and keeps doing it. From Grey’s Anatomy to Scandal and even Princess Diaries 2, her and her production company’s work has been a part of our lives for over fifteen years. After we're finished marveling over Rhimes, we hop on the Bridger-train to talk about her newest Netflix series, Bridgerton. Stay tuned while we whine about it and share our sweet as w(h)ines for the week. We may or may not talk about horses and marriage. We’re also exhausted. It’s okay. We’ll get through it together.
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                  Media mentions:
                  Shondaland
                  Biography.com article about Shonda Rhimes
                  The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement (2004) 
                  Grey’s Anatomy (2005) 
                  Station 19 (2018) 
                  Private Practice (2007)  
                  How to Get Away with Murder (2014) 
                  Scandal (2012) 
                  Bridgerton (2021) 
                  “The Duke and I” (Bridgertons #1) by Julia Quinn 
                  Bridgerton: The Official Podcast
                  1 hr 8 min
                • Check-In 2.24.2021

                  Need a chill night in but want something to keep your mind running? Grab your favorite drink and get ready to say, "SAME!" with this check-in about marketing pet peeves. Katie + Kenz will share some brands they love and marketing faux pas that keep us up at night. Stay tuned while we talk about some recent accomplishments and, of course, what we're reading, watching and listening to!

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                  Media mentions:

                  • The Ongoing She Said Music Recs Playlist 
                  • AP Style 
                  • Oxford Comma 
                  • “Hillbilly Elegy” by J.D. Vance 
                  • The Broken Hearts Gallery (2020) 
                  • “Truth for your twenties” podcast  
                  • “Homegoing” by Yaa Gyasi 
                  • To All The Boys: Always and Forever (2021) 
                  • Love Story (Taylor’s Version) by Taylor Swift 


                    • Brands we love:

                    • Von Maur
                    • Apple (do you even need a link for this one?)
                    • Hy-Vee 
                    • Fareway 
                    • Starbucks 
                    • Pottery Barn 
                    • Root 
                    • Capsule 
                    • Spanx 
                    • Ben & Jerry’s 
                    • NASCAR 
                    • American Family Insurance 
                      • 1 hr
                    • 1—She said, "Your mom never told you?"

                      Get your gal pals together as Katie + Kenz talk about a podcast within our podcast (so meta) called "Stuff Mom Never Told You" (SMNTY). SMNTY is part of the HowStuffWorks, an infotainment website with many mediums devoted to showing us how things work. We came to SMNTY separately, but at similar pivotal moments in our lives. Stay tuned while we talk about our favorite aspects of the podcast and a few select episodes. It's been a rough winter. Get your cozy socks and snuggle in for our w(h)ine about it and sweet as wine segments.

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                      Media mentions:

                      • SMNTY Violence Against Women Today 
                      • SMNTY Women and Alt-Right Extremism
                      • SMNTY Book Club: Circe 
                        • 1 hr 20 min

                      About She Said

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                      Join Katie + Kenz as we discuss women-made media, women in the media and all related topics. Follow "She Said" on Instagram and Twitter @_shesaidpodcast. New episodes released each Wednesday!