She Said

She Said

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She Said episodes

  • Checking in on checking in on your people

    In times of uncertainty, happiness, sadness and the plethora of human conditions, we can find comfort in our people. How do you check in? How do you prefer to be checked in on by others? We explore this all today, along with our current media and some recent accomplishments.

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    Media Mentions:

    • The Long and the Short of It Podcast 
      • “The Blind Assassin” by Margaret Atwood
      • Outlander (2014-) 
      • The Stacks Podcast 
      • “Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving” by Celeste Headlee 
      • Good Trouble (2019-) 
      • This is Us (2016-2022) 
      • Grey’s Anatomy (2005-) 
      • “Atomic Habits” by James Clear 
      • 53 min
      • 7—She said, "Whoever you become is who you always were."

        After a brief hiatus, Kenz leads our first episode of 2022 with a discussion on the book “Educated” by Tara Westover. The conversation covers the contents of the book along with thought prompts like:

        • What is home?
        • The empowerment and disenfranchisement of sexualization
        • A story without an end, but many beginnings.
        • Join us at the end for some sweet and sour wines with life updates from the past few months.

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          Media mentions:

          • “Educated” by Tara Westover 
          • “Hillbilly Elegy” by J.D. Vance 
          • The Stacks Podcast 
          • “Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving” by Celeste Headlee
          • 1 hr 24 min
          • 6—She said, "I have to do what’s right for me."

            CW: fitness, sexual violence, sexism

            Today, Katie leads our episode on women in athletics, beginning with the movie "Battle of the Sexes" and rounding out the conversation with current events like the settlement reached in the Larry Nassar trial, the upcoming Beijing olympics, and the safety of Chinese tennis star Peng Shuai. This is by no means a complete look at the full scope of the athletics and fitness world, but it's a good place to start. Join us at the end for some sweet and sour wines.

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            Media mentions:

            • Battle of the Sexes (2017) 
            • “Believed” by NPR on Apple Podcasts tells the story of USA gymnastics with this nine-part series
            • Settlement article on CNN
            • Simone Biles as Time's Athlete of the Year 2021
            • The U.S. and other countries boycott the Beijing olympics
            • Chinese tennis star Peng Shuai disappears after sharing her truth
            • Make It or Break It (2009-2012)
            • 56 min
            • Check-In 12.22.21

              Ding dong! We're checking in before Christmas and the new year to discuss our overall feelings about 2021 and some thoughts headed into the new year. 

              • “I hope you don’t carry this into 2022” series from @nedratawwab on Instagram
              • "Big Friendship" by Ann Friedman and Aminatou Sow
              • “To everything I’ve ever lost: Thank you for setting me free.” @secondsapart on Instagram
              • Happiness (Taylor Swift) and Happier (Olivia Rodigo)
                • “A Court of Thorns and Roses” series by Sarah J. Maas
                • “Throne of Glass” series by Sarah J. Maas 
                • “Unbound” by Tarana Burke 
                • You (2018–present) 
                • John Moore writing, former journalist at the Denver Post
                • New Amsterdam (2018-present) 
                • “McKenzie” by Houndmouth 
                • 57 min
                • 5—She Said, "XOXO."

                  Hello upper east siders... We're talking all things Gossip Girl today! Kenz leads us through some little-known facts about the show, and Katie recalls her first time watching it through. Of course, Blake Lively is mentioned. And we may or may not get a wee bit distracted in the middle, but we promise that it all relates... for the most part. Stick with us as we close up this episode with our sweet as wines and w(h)ine about its for the week, then check back next Wednesday for the next one. XOXO, Katie + Kenz.

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                  Media mentions:

                  • Gossip Girl (2007-2012) 
                  • Little-known facts about GG
                  • You (2018-present) 
                  • Chasing Dorota (2009) 
                  • 56 min
                  • Check-In 11.24.2021

                    We're checking in on the new album Red (Taylor's Version) by Taylor Swift, along with general happenings in our life. In a gloomier season, we are grateful for you and hope you have a wonderful holiday with loved ones!

                    58 min
                  • Check-In 11.10.21

                    Enjoy a brief check-in that is so candid that you literally are getting a lunchtime snippet of us two marketing professionals. We talk about our recent accomplishments and mention all the media we're reading, watching and listening to. Grab some lunch, put Katie + Kenz on and enjoy a conversation with us!

                    38 min
                  • 3—She Said, "Leadership and power require the confidence to effectively wield both."

                    Today, Kenz leads our conversation about Stacey Abrams! The 47-year-old politician, lawyer, voting rights activist and author was the first African-American female major-party gubernatorial nominee in the United States in the questionable 2018 election, which she narrowly lost. However, she is so much more than that. Join us for this awesome history lesson and quick take on voting rights in the United States!

                    49 min
                  • Check-In 10.27.21

                    Checking in! What’s your conflict resolution strategy? What’s your best self-care move? In this episode, we consider how they just might be intertwined and some tactics to put that conflict resolution into action while being kind to ourselves. We have a ton of media mentions in this episode, so be sure to click the links below to see what type of media we and your future selves are consuming.

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                    Media mentions:

                    • “SELF CARE: How do we identify our real needs and finally get them met?” from We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle podcast 
                    • “Favo(u)rite Questions” from The Long and The Short of It podcast 
                    • Happiness by Taylor Swift 
                    • Peace by Taylor Swift 
                    • “Atomic Habits” by James Clear 
                    • “Educated” by Tara Westover 
                    • Law & Order: SVU (1999—) 
                    • “7 ½ Deaths Of Evelyn Hardcastle” by Stuart Turton 
                    • Nacho Libre (2006) 
                    • “Four Hundred Souls” by Ibram X. Kendi and Keisha N. Blain
                    • 58 min

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                    Join Katie + Kenz as we discuss women-made media, women in the media and all related topics. Follow "She Said" on Instagram and Twitter @_shesaidpodcast. New episodes released each Wednesday!