She Said

She Said

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She Said episodes

  • She Said, "Dance, dance, dance with no hands."

    Kenz finally convinced Katie to watch Wednesday—and we're ob-SESSED. Tune in as we talk about what we liked and disliked about the show, some controversy that surrounds it, and what we think will happen in season two. Stick around until the end to hear our sweet and sour wines of the day!

    Media mentions:

    • Wednesday (2022)
    • Controversy Explained
    • Why Wednesday matters from Slate
      • 1 hr 32 min
    • Checking in on our hopes and dreams for 2023

      Happy new year! We're chatting today about our hopes and dreams for 2023, how we go about goal-setting and even what hasn't worked for us. Join us for this journey as we catch up on the holidays and the media we're consuming this winter.

      Media mentions:

      • “War Storm” by Victoria Aveyard
      • Wednesday (2022)
      • We Can Do Hard Things | Glennon’s Diagnosis & What’s Next
      • “This Time Tomorrow” by Emma Straub
      • Ginny and Georgia (2021-present) 
      • Raspberry Pie Radio
        • 1 hr 16 min
      • She Said, "Romance is my genre."

        Katie + Kenz have a wee bit o' fun talking about romance novels today. It's a genre that we're both entirely familiar with (think: discovering Twilight in our pre-teens) and wholly amateurs at. We go through the history of romance, stereotypes, tropes and our current faves. We also read some smut aloud, so this episode is probably not safe for work or little ears. You can practically hear Katie blush. Have a happy new year, and we'll see you in 2023!

        Media mentions:

        • "The Statistical Probability of Love at First Sight" by Jennifer E. Smith (YA)
        • "Red, White, and Royal Blue" by Casey McQuiston (YA)
        • "The Risk" by S.T. Abby
        • The "Chestnut Springs" series by Elsie Silver
        • "A Court of Thorns and Roses" series by Sarah J. Maas
        • "The Plated Prisoner" series by Raven Kennedy
        • "From Blood and Ash" by Jennifer L. Armentrout
        • Tessa Bailey’s "It Happened One Summer" and "Hook Line & Sinker"
        • "The Deal" by Elle Kennedy
        • "Den of Vipers" by K.A. Knight
          • 1 hr 23 min
        • Checking in on world media

          There's a lot of women-centric news making headlines and we're catching up on a few hot topics today. Join us for the ride, and hang out to hear what we're reading, watching and listening to... and maybe get a sneak peek of our next episode!

          Media mentions:

          • "A Gentle Reminder" by Bianca Sparacino
          • The White Lotus (2021-2023)
          • Background Jazz Music
          • "Aaron’s Mate by Abigail Raines
          • Manifest (2018-present)
          • "Pillars of the Earth" by Ken Follett
            • 1 hr 3 min
          • She Said, "Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.”

            The Handmaid's Tale is back with a vengeance and we watched it as soon as we absolutely could. Join us as we recap the newest season of this beloved (horrifying?) show and how it relates to the books(s) it's based on. Stick with us to the end to hear about some w(h)ines!

            Media mentions:

            • The Handmaid’s Tale (2017-present) 
            • “The Handmaid’s Tale” by Margaret Atwood 
            • “The Testaments” by Margaret Atwood 
            • The Ongoing She Said Playlist
            • Our Little Women episode! 
              • 1 hr 5 min
            • Checking in on gratitude during the season of thanks

              We're recording on Thanksgiving week and wonder: How much time do you take to reflect on what you're grateful for? Do you think more about these things during the fall season or do you make a habit of it all year long? We're checking in on some of these themes and diving into what's keeping us alive, awake, alert AND enthusiastic.

              Media Mentions:

              • "Red Queen" by Victoria Aveyard
              • Handmaid’s Tale (2017-present)
              • Falling for Christmas (2022)
              • Midnights (3 a.m. version) Taylor Swift
              • "101 Essays That Will Change The Way You Think" by Brianna West
              • The Sex Life of College Girls (2021-present)
              • Hinterland Playlist
                • 56 min
              • She Said, "Don't Worry, Darling."

                Katie + Kenz tackle the hit movie "Don't Worry, Darling" (2022)—and the infamous drama surrounding it. We dive deep into the cast, plot points, viewer experience and more. Stick with us until the end for some sweet and sour wines as we head into gloomy szn.

                1 hr 27 min
              • Checking in at the beginning of season four

                Oops, we did it again! After an extended staycation, we're back with a new season of fun with you -- all about women in media and women-made media. Grab a snack and buckle your seatbelts for this intro to the season, where we note some of our plans and get excited for the months ahead. As we wrapped up today, we chatted about the media we're currently reading, watching and listening to, plus we talked through a few recent accomplishments. Listen in to hear what's a-buzz in the Katie + Kenz universe!

                1 hr 19 min
              • Checking in at the end of season three

                The long and winding road of season three comes to an end with this extended check-in episode! You'll hear all about what has served us well this season and our plans for the year to come. Stick with us to the end to listen to our recent accomplishments, then let us know yours with a voice note or by sliding into our DMs.

                Media Mentions

                • “Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving” by Celeste Headlee 
                • Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (2018-2022)
                • benny blanco, Marshmello & Vance Joy - You
                  • “A Beautifully Foolish Endeavor” by Hank Green 
                  • Heartstopper (2022)
                  • “Come As You Are” by Emily Nagoski
                    • 1 hr 35 min

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                  Join Katie + Kenz as we discuss women-made media, women in the media and all related topics. Follow "She Said" on Instagram and Twitter @_shesaidpodcast. New episodes released each Wednesday!