John is joined by guest co-host Jason Garcia, and they begin by chatting about the state of the race for mayor. Then, a conversation with Sheila Nezhad, candidate for mayor of Minneapolis. Sheila's a policy organizer with Reclaim the Block, who's spent the past few years pushing Minneapolis elected officials to divert funding away from police into alternative approaches to public safety. What does Sheila think of Mayor Frey's fear-based framing of the 2020 election? What would a potential department of public safety look like in four years? What do people misunderstand about her positions? What's the alternative to soldiers on street corners during times of civil unrest? We also talk about crowd control weapons, George Floyd Square, a vision for the city's public works department, housing, the strong mayor proposal, a newfound perspective on sexism that women experience running for office, Ruby the dog, and if Sheila was disappointed at losing the endorsement of the DFL Senior Caucus. Among this episode's gotcha moments: Sheila admits she is to blame for the great police horse budget debate of 2020 and that Jessica Simpson is an "inspiration."

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