Stories from Shelf Love listeners who have reexamined romantic stories that they used to love and found that their relationship has gone from unconditional love to questioning the value of their relationship. Outlander. The Cosby Show. Harry Potter. Gilmore Girls. We hate to love you!

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Thanks to the contributors to this episode:

• The Smut Report
• EL Jones
• Katherine Grant
• DK Jones
• Jennifer RNN
• Terrible Lotus
• DL White
• Dr. Maria DeBlassie
• Dr. Sri Upadhyay

Discussed:

Wil Wheaton: separating art from problematic artist (via Dr. Maria DeBlassie):

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.upworthy.com/amp/wil-wheaton-shares-how-to-separate-art-from-problematic-artist-2655365986

Johannauary: https://soundcloud.com/user-282269790/episode-72-yours-to-keep-johannauary-1-defy-not-the-heart-by-johanna-lindsey

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Dr. Maria DeBlassie joins me to discuss engaging with banned media, and dealing with the discomfort and joy of growth. Is Gone With the Wind watchable with context? What happens when I force myself to watch it and realize how far into the present its influence reaches? And, I finally read Lord of Scoundrels by Loretta Chase and see what the fuss is about: but am I allowed to enjoy it?

Content notes: this episode discusses racism and intimate partner violence.

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Co-Host on this episode: Dr. Maria DeBlassie

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Previous Shelf Love episodes:

• Maria on episode 041 of Shelf Love: The Kiss Quotient
• 066 about African Diaspora Conjuring Practices in Pop Culture
• 067 Everyday Black Magic

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Discussed:

• Gone with the Wind (book and movie)
• Gone with the Wind, Banned Books Week & Uncomfortable Histories
• Lord of Scoundrels by Loretta Chase
• 6 Simple Lifelong Steps to Joyful Problematization, Infographic
• Jodi Picoult's Essay on NPR: Ready For Romance: Reading Gone With The Wind

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Is it real love or fantasy TV? I hope you're here for the right reasons: to learn how The Bachelor franchise produces a fantasy of romantic love. We cover the lingo (Rose Ceremony, Fantasy Suite, Frankenbiting), the scandals, the couples, and all of the commercially-viable aesthetically romantic gestures that construct "romantic love" on The Bachelor. 

Tell Me About is a series that introduces me and you to new genres and sub genres of romantic stories across media. Podcast host and Bachelor Nation Expert Jhen (The Blachelorettes, Monogamish, Stacked) joins me to discuss romantic love, what audiences expect from the love stories on The Bachelor, and how these stories make her feel.

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Discussed: The Bachelor

This episode is available on YouTube, with video, graphic additions, etc. Watch here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK149ByQtpo

Guest: Jhen

Jhen is an expert on The Bachelor, the co-host of The Blachelorettes podcast, as well as host of Monogamish Podcast and co-host of Stacked.

• Jhen: @haveyoumetjhen
• The Blachelorettes: @blachelorettes
• Monogamish: @monogamishpod
• Stacked: @stackedshow

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How do romantic narratives explore or influence our ideas of which bodies are "desirable"? Dr. Christina Fattore will introduce us to neoliberalism, and we'll discuss how the ideological focus on individual agency influences our ideas of which bodies are most desirable to acquire in romantic partners and how individuals must produce desirable bodies to create "value" in a romantic marketplace. 

CW: discussion of diet culture, body size, etc.

Guest: Dr. Fattore, associate professor of political science and romance reader and writer.

Discussed: Neoliberalism, "desirable" bodies, romantic partners according to dominant cultural ideologies

Guest: Dr. Christina Fattore

Associate professor of political science at West Virginia University as well as an avid romance reader. Currently working on a project on romancelandia and political participation, which was featured in the Washington Post.

Website: https://christinafattore.org/

Find on Twitter: @cfattorewvu

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Mentioned:

Spoiler Alert by Olivia Dade

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I now pronounce you man and...horse? Kissing mannequins, will Taylor stay dead this time, is Sheila Carter the best Supervillain, and favorite Super Couples (seemingly always love triangles?): when I asked Dr. Jodi McAlister to Tell Me About The Bold and the Beautiful, I had no idea how wild the ride would be!

Tell Me About is a series that introduces me and you to new genres and sub genres of romantic stories across media. Novelist, academic, and Soap Superfan Dr. Jodi McAlister share how soap opera's structure explores romantic love, what audiences expect from the love stories, and how these stories make her feel.

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Discussed: The Bold and the Beautiful (Soap Opera)

This episode is available on YouTube, with video, graphic additions, etc. Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w2VE2fiQQM&t=988s

Guest: Dr. Jodi McAlister

Dr Jodi McAlister is a Lecturer of Writing, Literature and Culture at Deakin University in Melbourne. She is also an author, and her new rom-coms Here For The Right Reasons and Can I Steal You For A Second? will be out in 2022.

• Jodi's website: http://jodimcalister.com.au/
• Find her on Twitter: @jodimca
• Instagram: @jodimcalister
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JodiMcA
• Valentine series: https://www.penguin.com.au/brand/valentine

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Mentioned:

• I Now Pronounce You Man and...Horse? 

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Journalist E. Jean Carroll hopped a ride on the Love Train with dozens of romance authors in 1983, hoping to discover "how to catch a man." But did she actually discover who women* in America were fantasizing about being? Steve Ammidown, archivist and historian of the romance genre, joins me to discuss Where the Heart Roams, a 1987 documentary about romance authors, culture clashes, silk sheets and lavender sachets, men with a lot of flash (there aren't many), and many conflicting theories about how to catch a man.

Appearances by: Vivian Stephens, Janet Dailey, Barbara Cartland, and many more! 

*middle class white cis heterosexual women...

Discussed: Where the Heart Roams (1987) documentary by George Csicsery

Available on Vimeo

Guest: Steve Ammidown

Steve Ammidown is an archivist and historian of the romance genre. In 2019, he was the Cathie Linz Librarian Of The Year.

He currently writes about romance history on his blog, romancehistory.com.

Find him on Twitter: @stegan

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Mentioned:

• Bizarre Life Magazine photo essay
• Labor force participation rates from 1890 to 2016
• E. Jean Carroll's Female Difficulties
  • Short excerpt on E. Jean's website

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Proving once and for all, using science, the truth of the romance reader stereotype. Warning: this research is about how romance novels and readers are perceived, not the actual reality. 

Show Notes:

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• Watch the presentation and slides on YouTube: https://youtu.be/BQzi8fBB0R8

Inside: Stereotype Content Model, Cognitive Dissonance, Susan Fiske, Social Psychology, Leon Festinger, Dan Ariely, and more.

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Romance Author Jodie Slaughter joins Shelf Love Live from Copper Dog Books in Beverly, Massachusetts. Can Jodie identify excerpts from her own books? What's her favorite trope and why is it Only One Bed? We play games and share romance recommendations, answer live Q&A from the audience, are ogled by passing firefighters, question if capitalism is the real nemesis in classic rom-coms, and more.

Recorded August 11, 2021 in a livestream. Watch the enhanced & edited video recording on YouTube!

Part 1: https://youtu.be/Una6yJPyVf0

Part 2: https://youtu.be/txultz7mqB8

Buy White Whiskey Bargain from Copper Dog Books: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/book/9781733426565

Pre-order Bet On It by Jodie Slaughter: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/book/9781250821829

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Books Mentioned:

• Keep Moving by Maggie Smith: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/book/9781982132071
• All Things Burn by Jodie Slaughter: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/book/9781074526542
• To Be Alone With You by Jodie Slaughter: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Y92DR54/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
• Satisfaction Guaranteed by Karelia Stetz-Waters: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/book/9781538735527
• Take a Hint Dani Brown by Talia Hibbert: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/book/9780062941237
• Strange Love by Ann Aguirre: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/book/9781658713764
• His Beauty by Jack Harbon: https://www.amazon.com/His-Beauty-Jack-Harbon-ebook/dp/B08LYL4JKM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=TZF4XPJSNBQH&dchild=1&keywords=his+beauty+jack+harbon&qid=1630370570&sprefix=his+beauty+jack%2Caps%2C326&sr=8-1
• Bitterburn by Ann Aguirre: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/book/9798554610417
• Harbor by Rebekah Weatherspoon: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/book/9780578720364
• How to Catch a Queen by Alyssa Cole: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/book/9780062933966

More Romance Recommendations: https://www.copperdogbooks.com/loveyourshelf

Learn more about Jodie Slaughter: https://www.jodieslaughter.com/

Shelf Love episodes mentioned:

• White Whiskey Bargain with Charish Reid: https://shelflovepodcast.com/episodes/season-2/episode-31/white-whiskey-bargain-by-jodie-slaughter-with-charish-reid-be-proud-english-majors/
• Jodie Slaughter Twilight fan fiction episode: https://shelflovepodcast.com/episodes/season-2/episode-77/077-twilight-fan-fiction-climbing-into-a-can-of-worms-with-jodie-slaughter-part-1/
• Ideologies with Margo Hendricks: https://shelflovepodcast.com/episodes/season-2/episode-80/080-i-now-pronounce-you-colonialism-capitalism-white-supremacy/
• Strange Love with Whoa!mance: https://shelflovepodcast.com/episodes/season-2/episode-76/076-generous-curiosity-strange-love-by-ann-aguirre-with-whoamance/
• Jack Harbon as a guest on the podcast talking about Captive Romance: https://shelflovepodcast.com/episodes/season-2/episode-84/084-captive-romance-problematic-favorite-tropes/

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Who profits from "diverse" romance adaptations? Are white authors making room for creators from marginalized backgrounds to tell their stories? What's lost in translation to screen?

Listener questions inspire me to dig into how romance novels differ from romances adapted for the screen. Then, I examine the curious case of Julia Quinn's Bridgerton adaptation, sharing statements she's made on whom she could imagine (not) getting a happily ever after in historicals and a never-before-heard interview with Kianna Alexander recounting a panel from 2017.

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Show Notes:

Shelf Love:

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Resources:

• Making Meaning in Popular Romance Fiction by Jayashree Kamble
• The Strand Panel on YouTube
• Laura Vivanco has a blog post where she collects some anecdotes from folks on Twitter with additional insight into the accuracy of how Julia Quinn has represented history in these anecdotes.
• Publisher's Weekly 1 month post-Bridgerton Sales
• Nielsen Julia Quinn Sales
• Julia Quinn's books

Contributors to this episode:

• Love, Essie
• Jhen - Monogamish, Shelf Love Episode
• Jodie Slaughter: episode 077 and 078
• Diana Filar: episode 092
• Kianna Alexander

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