SHIT2GRIT

David and Marshall discuss what the preseason really means, flash back to when the most popular person in Detroit was our backup quarterback (06:17), and wonder if backup QBs get practice reps with the first-team offense (08:00). Then we ask: when, if ever, should an NFL player choose going down or running out of bounds, versus fighting for an extra yard and risking injury (12:33)? Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"

Part 2 of 2. David wonders if our phones are listening to us, tells Marshall how to make their bedroom bats more effective against intruders (07:59), and has an intense reaction to a comment Dan Campbell made to Sports Illustrated (11:38). Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"

Part 1 of 2. David and Marshall try to solve a dead-rabbits mystery before they discuss second chances: will the Detroit Lions become only the third NFL team in the last 30 years to lose a conference championship, and come back the next season to win it (18:34)? And…what about second chances in love (29:54)? Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"

Part 3 of 3. Heather joins for a fascinating 'offseason' (translation: about our friendship, not football) episode.

In short: you'll get to see the stories we tell ourselves, and how both a) saying those stories out loud, and also b) responding to the stories with absolute honesty, can create real and deep trust and eliminate misunderstandings. Okay? Great!

Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind"

Pt. 2 of 3. David and Marshall discuss:

Then Heather joins us to resolve hurt feelings from the last time we were at David's house (08:35).

Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"

Part 1 of 3. On Father's Day, David and Marshall intend to record an episode on the Lions and reinvention, but this time we get lost in the weeds (pun intended) breaking down Marshall's experience mowing his first-ever lawn earlier this week.

Also discussed:

Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"

Football is essentially over until training camp. But our ongoing conversation continues, without football this week.

We started this season of SHIT2GRIT revisiting the violent tale of Cam Sutton, which apparently occurred when he was dealing with a failed relationship. We've also been talking about all the factors that go into giving a player a 'max' contract, and the lack of coaching players get about turning it off after they've been coached a lifetime to play violently.

Those three takes are the subjects of these three outtakes from conversations past.

Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"

Part 3 of 3. Brad Holmes has a proven track record as a GM in every area but one: re-signing his own draft picks. Holmes just gave cornerstone deals to three players: Amon-Ra St. Brown, Penei Sewell and Jared Goff. From Marshall’s perspective, all three cornerstones are not on equal footing. From David’s perspective, Holmes had no choice. 

That subject ties our last few episodes together. We recall a multitude of famous figures who’ve had unexpected trajectories in their careers and lives, and ask if there are any true predictors of a person’s future trajectory. We also champion the necessity of direct communication during the heat of battle, and wonder how important communication skills are in determining long-term success. 

We also ponder:

Stay tuned after the outro music (45:54), as David waxes passionate on the bizarre name of the episode—cracking Marshall up in the process. Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"

Pt. 2 of 3. David sends Marshall an Instagram video of two football players, one expressing frustration with the other's on-field communication. It launches us into a discussion about the nature of communication in high-pressure situations in professional sports.

Marshall emphasizes the importance of recognizing red flags and troubling patterns, while David considers the possibility of coaching and growth. Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)" | Instagram post: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7CZGTtRXWZ/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

Part 1 of 3. On our way to a conversation about Brad Holmes, David and Marshall get sidetracked. We reflect on:

In Part 2, we discuss Brad Holmes having to go all in on something he's never done before: re-sign his own draft picks | Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)