Indecision’s bugging the Two Matts… should Keir Starmer stay or should he go? If he stays there will be trouble. But if he goes it will be double. What is the right timing for a deeply disappointing premiership to end? It’s a clash of considerations - what’s right for the country, what would a successor look like, how do we get out of the cycle of endlessly dumping PMs? No easy answers but a difficult and nuanced debate about the mess we’re in. Also: why are the King and Queen not meeting the Jeffrey Epstein survivors in the States? The Matts have strong views. Enjoy!

Produced by Matt Withers

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