On our postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' frustrating 27-20 loss to the New York Jets.

They start with the quarterback position.

After Kevin Stefanski announced he's sticking with Dillon Gabriel, they discuss why that might be the right call, giving Gabriel and new play-caller Tommy Rees more time to gel.

They weigh the patience required for a rookie against the growing fan clamor to see Shedeur Sanders, acknowledging that the rest of the season is about evaluating these young quarterbacks.

Then, the conversation shifts to the special teams, which completely imploded. A kickoff return and a punt return for touchdowns in just 36 seconds led to 14 points for the Jets.

On defense, a critical offsides penalty by Cam Thomas cost the Browns dearly.

This leads to a bigger discussion: Is this loss the final straw? The hosts question the coaching, the mental errors and whether it's fair to start wavering on the long-term outlook for Kevin Stefanski and his staff.

It was a day of maddening mistakes that has them wondering where the Browns go from here in another disappointing season.

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