Zach shares his heart about the devil-worshipping displayed at the Grammys, and Pastor Jonathan Ramos interjects with a perspective worth thinking about as a Christian.

Whatcha think? Should we rebuke the individual (Sam Smith) making these choices or the spirit within him? 

Tune in now to hear the convo that needed to happen in order to come to a place of understanding. 

This is a clip from episode 137 "Let's Chop it Up"

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