When the Prime Minister could fall at any point, talk to someone who knows what should happen next. 

Grant Shapps is that someone and has a very clear view on how the next Conservative leader should be chosen. He's a crucial power player and will be instrumental in any future leadership contest. Grant also has some brilliant stories about serving in Boris Johnson's Cabinet, what it was like doing the Covid TV briefings and how Liz Truss sacked him. As well as being a passionate advocate of centre-right pragmatism, he's also an optimist... despite some hellish life experiences that could easily have destroyed his positivity.

This is an impeccably timed interview with a fascinating politician at the centre of what happens next.

Follow Grant on Twitter: @grantshapps

See Matt's completely rewritten stand-up show Clowns To The Left Of Me, Jokers to the Right on the following dates:

Fri 21 Oct - Bloomsbury Theatre

Fri 28 Oct - Bloomsbury Theatre

Tickets: https://www.mattforde.com/2022tour

Buy tickets to The Political Party, live at The Duchess Theatre here: https://nimaxtheatres.com/shows/the-political-party-with-matt-forde/

Forthcoming guests include:

7 Nov: David Dimbleby

14 Nov: Matt Hancock

5 Dec: Rachel Reeves

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