*TRIGGER WARNING* In this episode we talk about some potentially triggering themes. We talk about the inappropriate power of assumed trust in church leadership. People process uncomfortable situations, abuse, and feeling cornered in different ways. We are in a place where we can yell about it, swear about it, and laugh about it. If that is not where you're at feel free to skip this one. We understand that abuse is serious because we are both survivors of it, but if our unabashed tone won't be helpful for you please skip this episode. Don't bother commenting about us having an insensitive approach to things of this nature because both of us are on a journey to healing and this is just where we're at on it.