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Beatrice and Vicky Osterweil discuss what the first months of Trump’s second term tell us about the administration’s particular approach to fascism, the holes in their theory of power this time around, and how the field is ripe for mass movements to challenge not just Trump administration policies like mass deportation, but federal power itself.

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