Leadership is full of people problems — or so it seems. But what if the real issue is something hiding right underneath the surface?

In this episode of the Reaching for Remarkable Podcast, host Brooke Hodnefield is joined by Tim Foot (CEO of Slingshot Group and author of Reaching for Remarkable), Phil Bowdle, and Sarah Riebe (COO of Slingshot Group) to unpack the fifth key signature: Systems.

They share the story of Slingshot's own "Bonkers Year" — 54% growth in a single year — and what happened when the systems couldn't keep up. From the complacency trap to the hero-dependency cycle, this conversation is a wake-up call for any leader whose team is working harder and harder but somehow falling further behind.

Whether you love systems or quietly avoid them, this episode will change the way you think about what's really holding your mission back.

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