Sinsomnia

Kaisa and Kristen freeform on this episode about how they keep running into head center ‘stuff’ as they read sources that feel like it’s talking about the heart. The symbolic implications of this are interesting to play with in the personal as well as the collective sense. They both bring in personal dreams to illustrate these simultaneous and relational centers. Kristen and Kaisa talk about belief, religion, truth, betrayal, and love.

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Resources;

Jason E. Smith; ‘Religious But Not Religious’

Lecture on Shame/Contempt; https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=xDXQRgq9xL64kYiI&v=fXp9k8pLzgk&feature=youtu.be

Paulo Coelho; ‘The Alchemist’

Kaisa and Kristen continue talking about the themes, images, and other dissections of James Hillman’s essay, ‘The Thought of the Heart’. Along with general discussion, this episode loosely summarizes the previous readings and investigates possible future discoveries in the heart center and the realm of dreams. Some personal reflections and sporadic concepts make their way into the conversation and direct the flow of the two nines vibing and incising.

Resources;

‘Thought of the Heart’ essay by James Hillman; http://www.compilerpress.ca/Competitiveness/Anno/Anno%20Hillman%20Thoughts.htm

Josh Lavine & John Luckovich’s course on the Developmental View of the Centers; https://www.theenneagramschool.com/developmental-centers

Jason E. Smith; ‘Religious But Not Religious'

Kaisa and Kristen talk about James Hillman’s essay ‘The Thought of the Heart’ and how it relates to our connection (or lack of) to the heart center. We have personal as well as societal reflections on this material and what it could mean for individual types and where the heart is operating in our/their type structure. We get quite animated about the hidden gems of the heart center, and are determined to see what we start to uncover in the unconscious on the matter. 

Resources;

‘Thought of the Heart’ essay by James Hillman; http://www.compilerpress.ca/Competitiveness/Anno/Anno%20Hillman%20Thoughts.htm

Josh Lavine & John Luckovich’s course on the Developmental View of the Centers; https://www.theenneagramschool.com/developmental-centers

Big Hormone Enneagram - Harlem Hearts https://open.spotify.com/episode/1S3WIcR1Zd047WP909n9VQ?si=319d989e3ad14b4d

We revisit the body center so that Kaisa can get closure on the process she was absent for at the end of our exploration. She shares a dream that responded to our dream incubation, and we talk about how that highlights her own experience. Our conversation further differentiates the body types in the unconscious and how that impacts our motivations and sense of autonomy and movement. The themes of desire, sexuality, anger, needs, will, power, etc. are all revisited in the episode of Kaisa’s Closure.

Sammy and Kristen start diving into the heart center and contemplate what it means in the realm of dreams. We differentiate some language used for the heart center like image, shame versus guilt, and how that stems from object relations. We share a few of our own personal dreams that could be illustrating heart-centered motions between the dream ego and the ego of waking life. We’re excited to expand on all of these topics as the wisdom of our dreams begin to help us through this journey.

Resources;

Josh Lavine & John Luckovich’s course on the Developmental View of the Centers; https://www.theenneagramschool.com/developmental-centers

‘Disgust; the gateway emotion for healing toxic shame’ https://youtu.be/gKi7_rzlbBs?si=gTSm15gv2NPGHC8k

‘Waking the Tiger: Healing Trauma’ by Peter Levine

‘Thought of the Heart’ essay by James Hillman

Sammy and Kristen continue the previous conversation by sharing their dreams that they incubated to see how the body center might be operating in their unconscious. They asked their unconscious; ‘What am I asking another to hold?’ and they received answers which they begin to break apart and understand. These dreams can show a way in which listeners can see and listen to the body center within the realm of their own dreams and processes or experiences of life. 

Resources;

James Hillman’s ‘Senex and Puer’ lectures

Sammy and Kristen talk about what object relations might be highlighting about the body center and the unconscious. We break down the previously mentioned concepts of the container, blurred boundaries, anger, unconscious identification, and how all of this could be showing up in each of the body types.

All of the body types/centers are dissociated and confused where their boundaries really are or where they are not. With the idea of ‘holding’, both in the environment and with others, we can learn how to make more space for parts of us that are outcasted or unloved. Using dreams as a way to see where or who we’re projecting these parts of us in can be a useful way to strengthen our container and identify our true boundaries.

Resources;

Josh Lavine & John Luckovich’s course on the Developmental View of the Centers; https://www.theenneagramschool.com/developmental-centers

Josh Lavine’s ‘Focusing’ podcast episode; https://open.spotify.com/episode/5RaRUam3Sd7Gjzee435fgz?si=e80963d21cdd4743

Kristen and Kaisa discuss possible dream symbols to track for the body center. We talk about abstract concepts such as considering the environment of a dream and the psychological processing of alchemy. More obvious symbols like fire, forges, blood, animals, and actual bodies in the dream are also talked about and explored both objectively and personally. 

We talk a lot about our relationships to where the body’s energy may be trapped or unresolved, and what the symbols of dreams could be showing us on how to work with that and help it to actually move in a more productive and freeing way. Distinguishing these parts and beginning to separate them from the other centers or instincts can be useful when isolating work on the body center. 

Resources;

‘Illustrated Encyclopedia of Traditional Symbols’ by J. C. Cooper

‘Waking the Tiger: Healing Trauma’ by Peter Levine

James Hillman ‘The Alchemy of Psychology’ https://livebrary.overdrive.com/media/2933560

Sammy and Kristen take over the podcast conversation today to talk about their personal journeys so far on the body center. We talk about recent dream imagery, personal associations that have transformed, and discoveries we’ve had on the connections to our bodies and what’s all ‘hiding’ in this center. 

Because of the free-flowing nature of this conversation; we also talk about families, the instincts, ‘bitter’ medicine, cognitive functions, mortality, strength, and more!

Resources;

‘The Soul’s Code’ by James Hillman

James Hillman ‘The Alchemy of Psychology’ https://livebrary.overdrive.com/media/2933560

‘The Tarot, A Key to the Wisdom of Ages’ by Paul Foster Case

‘Waking the Tiger: Healing Trauma’ by Peter Levine

We answer a listener’s question that came along in time for us to talk about the body center and how it relates to the sexual instinct and sexuality. We talk about what it means to feel attraction and desire and how that projection (like we discovered with anger) can help us develop a relationship to our bodies as the container of these experiences, and show us our path to individuation. 

If any listeners have question or dreams, please send them to [email protected]

For personal dream work with Kristen, you can visit inkstoryrebel.com or email [email protected] to consider available services.

Resources;

Marion Woodman’s books and work

Lacan’s theory ‘There Is No Sexual Relation’ - https://www.lacan.com/symptom13/there-is.html

Jung’s ‘Syzygy’ - https://www.psychology-lexicon.com/cms/glossary/52-glossary-s/666-syzygy.html

James Hillman ‘The Alchemy of Psychology’ https://livebrary.overdrive.com/media/2933560