Madison McGhee (Ice Cold Case, Frozen Files) pulls up for a mindfully lit kava-fueled hang that somehow goes from cold cases to Bravo chaos real quick. She gets into the obsession with true crime vs. reality TV, her deeply personal podcast journey, and why some cases get attention… and others don’t. Plus, tea on the new Vanderpump Rules era, her actual connection to the cast, and what it’s like watching it all unfold in real life. And yes, Tom shares a Jax Taylor update you’re def gonna want to hear.

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