The Sun Devils are No. 1.

For the first time in program history, the ASU men's swim and dive team is atop the national rankings. It's yet another sign of the tremendous progress the program has made under head coach Bob Bowman. 

One of the most accomplished coaches in the sport's history, notably the man who coached Michael Phelps into true GOAT status, Bowman inherited a struggling program and has since built a powerhouse.

On this episode, we discuss the significance of the ranking, the process of rebuilding the program, his coaching career, mentoring Michael Phelps and the similarities between him and a current ASU super sophomore, and so much more.