Following in the footsteps of a legend is a hard task...but doing so after winning a national title is a little easier. In April, Herbie Behm was elevated to become the new head coach of Arizona State's swim & dive teams following the men's team taking home the NCAA title and the departure of legendary coach Bob Bowman. A former Sun Devil swimmer, Herbie would join the ASU staff in 2018, and over the years has earned a reputation as one of the best and most innovative young coaches in the sport.

On this episode, Herbie and I discuss his start in the pool, the journey from cut program to national champion, seeing Sun Devils win gold on the world stage, his vision for the future, and more.