The makeover of Sun Devil men's basketball was not limited to on the court. This offseason, when Bobby Hurley needed a new lead assistant, he was able to pluck a heralded up and comer from a perennial powerhouse.

Before arriving in Tempe, Joel Justus spent the past 7 seasons at Kentucky, the most recent 5 as an assistant coach. He was a key part in the Wildcats' success, recruiting and developing players like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. He's now brought that pedigree to Arizona State as he looks to help elevate the Sun Devils into contenders.

On this episode, Justus and I discuss his basketball journey, why ASU was the right move, being Hurley's ballboy as a kid, young Devin Booker, the lessons learned from a coaching icon, how close ASU is to contender status, and much more.