Losing your defensive coordinator not once but twice in an offseason could be crippling. Then again, not every program has someone like Marvin Lewis to step right in.

One of the game's best defensive minds is taking the reins for the Sun Devil defense as co-defensive coordinator in 2020.

In this episode, we discuss getting back into coaching, ASU's new scheme, coaching for and against Herm Edwards, the Pro Model, his role as a recruiting "closer," mentoring Antonio Pierce, and so much more.