Kenny Dillingham's Devils have been underdogs. Overlooked. Underestimated. Yet as the world saw this past season, they find a way to battle, overcome, and succeed.

One of the best examples of this new breed of Sun Devil is Shamari Simmons. From a small Alabama town, he had to climb the college football ladder the hard way, going from junior college to the FCS before earning a chance at ASU.

He rewarded Dillingham and the staff with a 2023 season that ended with Simmons being named the team MVP. This past year, after moving from safety to nickel due to team need, he excelled again, delivering hard hits and making plays in helping lead ASU's Playoff run. In doing so, he became an example of making the most of an opportunity.

On this episode, Shamari and I discuss what made this year's team special, the wild Peach Bowl, how his years at ASU changed his life, preparing for the NFL, and much more...and yes, that includes the targeting call.