The Sun Devil defense in 2022 was...not great. At times, it was flat out bad. As anyone who watched it, the scheme rarely brought the attack to the opposing offense, putting the players in a tough spot, and the results were predictable. When Kenny Dillingham was assembling his staff, he targeted Washington State defensive coordinator Brian Ward, in large part because his scheme is built on aggression and bringing the fight to the offense. In revamping the Devil D, Ward has had the benefit of having Travion Brown. The veteran linebacker spent four years in Pullman playing for the Cougars, and now he has emerged not only as a starter for ASU, but his experience both in the scheme and the Pac-12 has been an invaluable resource for the young group of 'backers. In this episode, Travion and I discuss why he chose ASU, his emergence as a leader, his aspirations to become a K-9 officer, adjusting to desert life, and more.