While I'm a big believer and proponent of opening the doors to let everyone find frustration and satisfaction at work, as a middle-ages white guy, I always feel out of my depth. Luckily, I know a guy who lives and breathes diversity. We have yet another rambling conversation on what its going to take to change minds and the world. I'm a huge fan of Torin Ellis, but I'm also his friend, so I'm tickled purple to bring him onto the podcast. And for real: if you get the chance to hear him speak, do it. The man's got the mojo.

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Torin Ellis: torinellis.com, @TorinEllis

Places I'm speaking:
MRA Bettendorf
Transform - Boston
RecFest - London
SRSC - Philly
MRA Minneapolis
Recruitcon - Nashville
MidwestTechRecruit - Chicago