Welcome to another, of what we hope will become a regular weekly or bi-weekly catch-up between Andy from That UFO Podcast and Pavel from Psicoactivo.

In this episode, Andy and Pavel break down the latest major claims from Dr. Eric Davis, including his comments on alleged alien species, Skinwalker Ranch, Roswell, cattle mutilations, the hitchhiker effect and what can or cannot be said publicly.

The conversation also digs into the wider state of the UFO topic right now, including Gerb’s questioning, Hal Puthoff, Skywatcher, alleged orbs, counterintelligence concerns, the problem of cult-like belief systems, and why so many people in this space seem to be pulling in different directions.

Dan Cleary from Others From Another Mother also jumps in for part of the discussion, adding his thoughts on skywatches, CE5-style claims, evidence, and where the community should draw the line between open-mindedness and belief.

The show finishes with discussion around Vanguard, Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland, whistleblower support, and what kind of questions the community should be asking next.

A loose, honest and wide-ranging UFO roundtable, with plenty of disagreement, humour and big questions.

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