Key Links       Today, I speak with Slawek Muturi, a truly fascinating and impressive traveler.  The more I researched Slawek, the more I was looking forward to our conversation.  He is a successful individual, whether it is business or travel.   Counting Countries is offering its first group tour to Madagascar in August of 2020.  Please reach out to me with any questions on this trip. In addition, if you are planning trips to places like Antarctica, Svalbard, Galapagos, please consider my partner G Adventures and use my link.   I am reminding you that Counting Countries is partnered with Patreon.  Patreon is a platform that allows patrons, that’s you, to support creators, and that is me creating Counting Countries.  And thanks to my other patrons, Steph Rowe, Ted Nims, Bisa Myles, Ryan Gazder, Stephen Rothwell, and Adam Hickman. They get to listen to extra content, only for them.   Untamed Borders, the sponsor of Counting Countries, focuses on challenging locations for those chasing 193.  Check out their trips to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and much more.   Of course, many of those listening to this podcast are interested in chasing 193.  As I think we all would agree, this is an impressive feat. With Slawek, I have just interviewed my third guest, who has been to every country in the world twice.  With some hasty research, it appears that Babis Bizas was the first in December of 2018, followed by Gunnar Garfors by only a couple of days later, and Slawek finished in September of 2019 in Japan.  Slawek also plans a journey to visit all of the countries for a third time. We touch on this and so much more.           I encourage you to subscribe wherever you listen, Apple Podcast, Google Play, or Spotify and write a review, even better when it is 5 stars.  Since we all love stats, Counting Countries has now been downloaded in 199 countries. So I would like to give a shout out to fans in PNG, Guinea, and Turkmenistan.  And, no, I am not sure how they define a country.    Slawek was in Poland and I was in Boston for the interview.  Also, I want to thank Slawek for his patience in regard to multiple technical issues during the recording.  Please listen in and enjoy.    Thank you to my Patrons …. Stephen Rothwell, Steph Rowe, Adam Hickman, Bisa Myles, Ted Nims & Ryan Gazder.  You can purchase some today on Amazon.      And now you can listen to ! And Alexa!   And write a review! Check out our friend: .  They organize international rallies around the world including: Sri Lanka, Cambodia, the Philippines and the Amazon.  And watch my full length when I traveled with Large Minority.      About Counting Countries Counting Countries is the only podcast to bring you the stories from the dedicated few who’ve spent their lives on the singular quest of traveling to every country in the world. Less people have traveled to every country in the world than have been to outer space. Theme music for this podcast is Demeter’s Dance, written, performed, and provided by .  About GlobalGaz Ric Gazarian is the host of Counting Countries. He is the author of three books: , , and .  He is the producer of two travel documentaries: and .   Ric is also on his own quest to visit every country in the world. You can see where he has and keep up with his journey at More About Slawek: Passports: Poland and Kenya Instagram:    Facebook:   Youtube: How Many Countries Are There? Well… that depends on who you ask!  The United Nations states that there are . The British Foreign and Commonwealth office states that there are . The Traveler’s Century Club states that there are . The Most Traveled Person states that there are . The Nomad Mania SISO says there are .   Me? My goal is the 193 countries that are recognized by the UN, but I am sure I will visit some other places along the way. Disclaimer: I will earn a fee if you order from Amazon/Agoda. Or book a trip through G Adventures.  PS Thanks!    ----- Produced by