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Are you confused about what copyright law protects now that AI is out in the wild? Intellectual Property Attorney Brooke Smarsh explains the truth about AI-generated content: what’s covered, what isn’t, whether AI-generated content can be copyrighted, and what’s fair game when training models—plus, why taking the time to understand this topic today could save you from expensive headaches tomorrow.

⚠️ Disclaimer: This episode offers insights on AI and copyright but should not be interpreted as legal advice.

🤖 Additional Яesources:

- Brooke Smarsh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brooke-smarsh/

- Lexology: https://www.lexology.com/

- US Copyright Office: https://www.copyright.gov/

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🤖 Creativity & Robots: “A love letter to human creativity, with AI as the stage prop.”

Host Juan Faisal interviews creative professionals to discuss how generative AI influences our creative process, work, and media consumption. Join us to learn how AI can enhance your creativity, and dive into the ethics and realities of the tech. For experts and beginners alike.___🤖 Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro: Brooke Smarsh

00:42 - What Can You Copyright? A Quick Guide for Creatives

02:56 - How Your AI Tools Could Affect Your Copyright Rights

05:56 - AI Content: What’s Protected and What’s Not

10:44 - Is AI Training Fair Use or a Copyright Violation?

16:18 - The AI Dilemma: Innovate Freely or Follow the Rules?

18:35 - Is AI Hurting Small Creators and Helping Big Tech?

28:09 - New AI Legislation: Key Points for Creatives

31:04 - Why IP Lawyers Are Concerned About AI

33:48 - Easy Ways for Creatives to Learn More About IP Law

37:31 - How to Connect with Brooke Smarsh

AI Experts React to Oprah Winfrey's "AI and the Future of Us" Special

Most people saw Oprah’s AI special. But what *didn’t* it cover? Juan Faisal talks with AI filmmaker Jagger Waters, strategist Kate Cook, and edtech PM Kyle-Prescott Ogunbase about the trust gap in AI, what "Generation AI" actually faces, and why public understanding—not just faster tools—matters most.

🤖 Why it matters:

AI is scaling faster than most people can make sense of it. This episode unpacks the real risks, power moves, and human questions getting buried in the hype.

🤖 You’ll learn:

- Why safety, scams, and trust need center stage in AI debates

- How Gen AI is already growing up inside a synthetic media world

- Why ethical development needs stronger incentives—not just open letters

- What AI can and can’t fix when it comes to loneliness, labor, and learning

🤖 Guests:

Kate Cook – Founder, Era Seven Partners

Certified AI strategist helping brands adapt to rapid tech change

Kyle-Prescott Ogunbase – Product Manager, Newsela

Building AI tools to improve literacy in classrooms

Jagger Waters – Award-winning AI filmmaker

Producer at Curious Refuge and escape.ai

🤖 Host: Juan Faisal

- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akajuanfaisal/

- Newsletter: https://juanfaisal.substack.com/

- Website: https://juanfaisal.com/

🤖 Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

01:43 Oprah’s special: What it got right and wrong

06:35 Sam Altman: Most dangerous man in tech?

12:23 Trust, ethics, and who builds the future

18:05 Marques Brownlee: AI for video and voice

20:20 Deepfakes and what’s fueling them

25:20 Why AI literacy may be the most urgent skill

29:10 Aza Raskin & Tristan Harris: AI vs. society

32:21 Christopher Wray: AI and criminal threats

36:00 Why companies still hesitate to adopt AI

40:07 Can schools undo biased training data?

43:05 Parenting in the age of Generation AI

45:35 Is AI a threat—or a lifeline—for workers?

52:19 Marilynne Robinson: The human cost of progress

56:40 Difficulty is the point

59:50 Final thoughts on what comes next

AI's impact is misunderstood—both overhyped and underappreciated, says Luke Wilcoxson, co-founder and creative director of Only the Bold. In this episode, he shares how you can use AI to boost your creative career without losing your value and the secret to staying ahead in an industry that (for better or worse) never stops evolving.

🤖 Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro to Luke Wilcoxson (Only the Bold Agency)

00:43 - AI's Overhyped and Underappreciated Aspects

04:20 - "Worst AI Ever" – Fact or Fiction?

08:15 - AI's Impact on Creative Problem Solving

12:03 - The AI Divide in CDMX's Motion Design Circles

14:08 - Is AI Devaluating Our Creativity?

19:39 - Fighting Creative Laziness: Tips to Stay Sharp

22:54 - AI Skills That Will Define Creative Work in 2025

26:32 - What's Next: Learning More About Luke's Work

🤖 Connect with Juan Faisal:

- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akajuanfaisal/

- Newsletter: https://juanfaisal.substack.com/

- Website: https://juanfaisal.com/

🤖 Additional resources:

• AI DesignResources Newsletter
• AI Design Resources Podcast
• Why "Grokking" AI Would Be A Key To AGI

🤖 About Creativity & Robots:

"A love letter to human creativity, with AI as the stage prop.”

Host Juan Faisal interviews creative professionals to discuss how generative AI influences our creative process, work, and media consumption. Join us to learn how AI can enhance your creativit, and dive into the ethics and realities of the tech. For experts and beginners alike.

🤖 Subscribe to Creativity & Robots here!

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EP18 — AI's Cultural Crisis: A Marketer's Bold Solution - Tamon George

Tamon George, ex-pro footballer turned creative director and co-founder of Creative Theory Agency (Ad Age's Small Agency of the Year), is tackling AI's diversity problem in advertising. Learn how his team, behind campaigns for Google, Nike, and Amazon, is using generative AI beyond mere automation. In this conversation, Tamon reveals why diverse voices are crucial in AI development, showing how varied life experiences shape AI prompts and results. He addresses the big question: how do we make AI reflect the real world, not just tech insiders' views?

🤖 Timestamps:

00:00 - Tamon George's Journey

02:24 - Incorporating Generative AI into Work

05:35 - Cultural Consciousness in AI Prompts

09:36 - The What Prompted You? Campaign

14:29 - Barriers to Accessing AI Tools

21:06 - The Second Wind of the AI Bubble

25:46 - Exploring the Potential of AI in Video Creation

🤖 Additional resources:

- https://www.whatpromptedyou.com/

- https://www.creativetheory.agency/

- https://www.instagram.com/creativetheoryagency/

🤖 Connect with Juan Faisal:

- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akajuanfaisal/

- Newsletter: https://juanfaisal.substack.com/

- Website: https://juanfaisal.com/

🤖 Creativity & Robots: “A love letter to human creativity, with AI as the stage prop.”

Host Juan Faisal interviews creative professionals to discuss how generative AI influences our creative process, work, and media consumption. Join us to learn how AI can enhance your creativity, and dive into the ethics and realities of the tech. For experts and beginners alike.

🤖 Subscribe to Creativity & Robots here!

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Can generative AI help filmmakers tell stories that would otherwise be impossible to tell? Iranian-American director Reza Sixo Safai (Persian: رضا سیکسو صفایی) shares his groundbreaking journey into AI filmmaking, from his first Midjourney experiments to creating an OpenAI-powered Tribeca short. Reza reveals how AI can be used to bypass censorship in Iran and craft resonant, dreamlike narratives that mirror his own experiences.

Diving deep into AI's impact on storytelling, Reza explores ethical prompting, amplifying diverse voices, and the parallels between his immigrant roots and adaptability as an artist. He also shares insights into mastering AI tools while emphasizing the importance of traditional filmmaking skill

🤖 Timestamps:

00:00 - How Reza Integrates Generative AI into Filmmaking

01:31 - Civil War, Silicon Valley, and Cinema: Reza's

Immigrant Journey

02:32 - Discovering Generative AI and the Pika AI Community

10:31 - Using AI to Bypass Censorship in Iran

14:01 - Ethical Prompting: Working with OpenAI's Sora Team

19:56 - Reza Meets Sora: A Filmmaker's First Look

29:03 - Beyond Prompts: Generative AI's Full Scope

31:02 - Film First, AI Second: Building a Solid Foundation

36:37 - What's Next: Reza's AI Projects and New Ventures

🎬 Loved this deep dive into AI filmmaking? Do your creative friends a favor and share this episode with them! Your mind = 🤯 Their minds = 🤯🤖 Additional resources:

• Reza's Twitter
• Reza's LinkedIn
• The Passion of Manijeh (AI short film)
• Father Time (AI short film)The Passion of Joan of Arc (Carl Dreyer, 1928)

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• My Portfolio

🤖 Creativity & Robots:

“A love letter to human creativity, with AI as the stage prop.”Host Juan Faisal interviews creative professionals to discuss how generative AI influences our creative process, work, and media consumption. Join us to learn how AI can enhance your creativity, and dive into the ethics and realities of the tech. For experts and beginners alike.🤖 Subscribe to Creativity & Robots here!

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Georg Zoeller, ex-Meta director, says the AI doom narrative is a denial of service attack against regulators. The EU spent a quarter of its regulatory bandwidth on AGI apocalypse scenarios while the damage already underway, job displacement, platform consolidation, the commoditization of code, got almost no scrutiny. Georg says Sam Altman is probably laughing.

Georg walks through the Meta and Google playbook from the inside. Why giving away free tools like Llama is a market capture strategy, not generosity. How to spot an AI charlatan in a boardroom meeting (hint: ask them to explain it simply). Why gaming led AI transformation before most industries noticed. What the dot-com crash predicted about this moment. And why if someone cannot explain AI in terms you understand, it is religion, not tech.

For creatives, the picture he paints is not encouraging. The platform economy has been strip-mining creative industries since before AI. Amazon watched what sold and launched its own brand. Facebook harvested Quora's top questions, repackaged them with LLMs, and sold the reach to scammers. AI accelerates that economy. Literacy, unions, and voting power are the only tools that move the needle.

Is the doom scenario keeping regulators distracted on purpose?

ABOUT SLOP WORLDAI news with receipts. Juan Faisal and Kate Cook fact-check the claims Big Tech is making about AI, follow the money, and break down what it actually means for your job, your data, and your daily life. From leaked data and corporate cover-ups to AI schools, stolen identities, and layoff headlines that don't add up, we cover the AI stories that everyone's hyping but nobody's verifying. New episodes every Thursday.

DISCLAIMERAll content is commentary and opinion based on publicly available documents, interviews, and verifiable sources. References to "scams," "grifts," or related terms reflect our editorial opinion, not legal conclusions. Anyone featured who believes a statement is inaccurate may contact us.

LEARN MORE ABOUT GEORG ZOELLERAI Literacy Transformation Institute: https://ailti.org/Centre for AI Leadership: https://centreforaileadership.org/

CHAPTERS

00:00 Georg Zoeller's Background

00:46 Are We Understanding AI All Wrong?

01:40 First Principles: Breaking Down AI Basics

05:18 The Crypto Feeder Event and AI Buzzwords

06:36 Why Gaming Is the Frontier of AI Transformation

08:21 Technology as a Modern Religion

10:05 Why AI Is an All-of-Company Problem, Not Just IT

11:46 How to Spot AI Charlatans

13:18 Defining AGI and the Rules of Creation

15:23 Industrialization: Machines Printing Machines

19:31 Boardroom Pressure and the AI Strategy Narrative

22:54 Production Logistics: Assassin's Creed and Movie Examples

24:50 Productivity Injections vs. Market Commoditization

27:18 Why Platform Owners Like Meta and Google Benefit Most

28:40 The Impending Commoditization of Code

31:22 Can Creatives Afford to Ignore AI?

32:56 Hype vs. Function: Lessons from the Dot-com Crash

34:16 General Purpose Compute and the Power of Instruction

37:12 The Future Value of Handmade Human Experience

39:34 Which Creative Roles Are Most Vulnerable?

42:01 Why Active Engagement Is Better Than Rejection

44:51 Why Silicon Valley Needs the Hype

48:54 Advice for Creatives: Where to Start Learning

50:42 The Platform Economy: East India Company 2.0

53:31 How Platforms Strip Mine Creative Industries

56:30 Fighting Back: Literacy, Unions, and Voting Power

01:00:13 The Doom Scenario as Regulatory Sabotage

01:01:29 Centre for AI Leadership and AI Literacy

01:06:06 Stay Informed and Don't Accept the Bubble

Tim Simmons spent years in Hollywood before founding Theoretically Media. Pitch trailers, studio meetings, options that went nowhere. He walked away, built the channel to 100,000 subscribers, and made a pirate vampire film called "Dead Sea" in four days for $500 in material costs. A traditional pipeline for that project would have run between $130,000 and $900,000.

Four days. 120 AI generations. Thirty-three shots made the cut.

Juan and Tim cover how Tim prices his own labor on AI projects, why time estimation is still the messiest part of the job, and which tools he actually recommends to beginners versus the ones he covers just because they're news. They also hit the IP and legal gray zone, and Tim's argument that fragmentation across AI video platforms is the best thing happening right now. When everything consolidates into one tool, everything starts to look the same.

ABOUT SLOP WORLDAI news with receipts. Juan Faisal and Kate Cook fact-check the claims Big Tech is making about AI, follow the money, and break down what it actually means for your job, your data, and your daily life. From leaked data and corporate cover-ups to AI schools, stolen identities, and layoff headlines that don't add up, we cover the AI stories that everyone's hyping but nobody's verifying. New episodes every Thursday.

DISCLAIMERAll content is commentary and opinion based on publicly available documents, interviews, and verifiable sources. References to "scams," "grifts," or related terms reflect our editorial opinion, not legal conclusions. Anyone featured who believes a statement is inaccurate may contact us.

00:00 Can AI Actually Replace Hollywood?

01:00 How Tim Simmons Saw the AI Wave Coming

03:00 Why Hollywood Is Harder to Break Into Than Ever

04:00 The AI Pitch That Started a Bidding War

06:00 He Made a Movie for $500. It Would've Cost $900K.

07:30 How to Actually Budget an AI Production

10:30 Nobody Has a Real Pipeline Yet

13:00 What Happens When AI Tools All Look the Same

15:00 Is AI Filmmaking Having Its Grunge Moment?

17:00 Copyright and AI: Tim's Honest Take

19:30 Why "Am I Too Late?" Is the Wrong Question

23:00 Where to Start: 3 Tools, $70 a Month

30:00 How Tim Sees Every AI Tool Before You Do

34:00 The Thing Everyone Gets Wrong About Generative AI

37:00 Where to Find Tim Simmons and Theoretically Media

EP. 14 — Can YouTube Survive AI? A Top Strategist Speaks OutGuest: Tim Jablonski

In this episode of Creativity & Robots, we are joined by Tim Jablonski, Senior Vice President of Programming and Audience Development at Little Monster Media. Tim talks about the ways AI is reshaping YouTube and offers practical advice on incorporating AI tools into your content creation. We also discuss the ethical aspects of AI usage and share key strategies for expanding your channel's reach. Find out which kinds of channels are excelling in the AI age and how you can use AI to enhance your content.

Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction and Background05:49 - The Future of YouTube and AI12:44 - The Challenges of Generative AI in Content Creation20:03 - Ethical Considerations and Viewer Safety27:40 - The Importance of a Clear Core Value Proposition33:08 - Final thoughts

About Creativity & Robots:

“A love letter to human creativity, with AI as the stage prop.”

Creativity & Robots is a podcast about human creativity in the age of AI. Creative Strategist and host ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Juan Faisal⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ interviews creative professionals in various fields to explore the relationship between human creativity and generative AI and how it influences our creative process, the work we do, and the media we consume.

Whether you're a seasoned expert or just starting out, join us to learn how generative AI can boost your creativity. We'll also discuss ethical implications and question the tech buzz when it doesn't add up.

Subscribe to Creativity & Robots here!

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In this episode, Pakko De La Torre-Rocha discusses how AI can streamline video creation, improve social media campaigns, and optimize advertising strategies. He shares his workflow and tips for using AI tools effectively. Pakko emphasizes the importance of embracing new technologies to stay ahead in the industry and highlights the power of AI in enhancing creativity. He also discusses the future of AI in video creation and the potential it holds for filmmakers and creators.

🤖 Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction and Pakko's achievements00:56 - First encounter with generative AI03:06 - Impact of AI on independent creatives and large agencies06:01 - AI use cases: chatbots, marketing, data analysis08:44 - Pakko's workflow for making AI-generated videos14:22 - Showcase: Viva México! (An AI animation by Pakko)15:40 - Viva México! Animation process explained19:08 - Tips for getting started with AI tools and platforms21:49 - What to learn if you are starting with AI tools in 202427:01 - What's next for AI and creativity30:21 - Pakko's career and why AI made him young again32:45 - Closing remarks and how to connect with PakkoAbout our guest, Pakko De La Torre-Rocha:Pakko is a multifaceted creative director with over 15 years of experience, known for his innovative work with top advertising agencies like Ogilvy & Mather and TBWA\​Chiat\​Day. Specializing in AI, AR/VR, and social media, Pakko combines hands-on leadership with cutting-edge technology to create award-winning campaigns for clients like Cisco, Taco Bell, and Nissan. His expertise in Web3 and Metaverse, coupled with a deep passion for emerging technologies, ensures that his creative solutions are not only engaging but also transformative.Additional Resources:

• Pakko @ LinkedIn
• AIMWorld.ai
• Pakko @ Instagram

About Creativity & Robots:

“A love letter to human creativity, with AI as the stage prop.”

Creativity & Robots is a podcast about human creativity in the age of AI. Creative Strategist and host ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Juan Faisal⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ interviews creative professionals in various fields to explore the relationship between human creativity and generative AI and how it influences our creative process, the work we do, and the media we consume.

Whether you're a seasoned expert or just starting out, join us to learn how generative AI can boost your creativity. We'll also discuss ethical implications and question the tech buzz when it doesn't add up.

Subscribe to Creativity & Robots here!

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EP. 13 — Breaking AI's Bias: From Awareness to ActionGuest: Catharine Montgomery, MBA

In this episode of Creativity & Robots, we dive into the world of AI-driven social good with Catharine Montgomery, founder and CEO of Better Together. Catharine shares her insights on using generative AI to combat biases and promote inclusion, offering actionable strategies that can drive positive change in the tech industry.

🤖 Timestamps:00:00 - Intro: AI for Social Good and Better Together's Mission01:47 - Bias: Thinking You're Helping but Doing Harm03:12 - Handling Pushback and Passive Disagreement06:54 - AI Ampliying Bias: The Need for Diverse Data11:00 - Experiencing Bias in AI and Importance of Representation12:56 - Mitigating Bias: Challenges for Companies14:11 - Financial Benefits of Diversity vs. Investment Resistance20:54 - Better Together's Role in Addressing AI BiasAbout our guest, Catharine Montgomery, MBA:Catharine Montgomery is the founder and CEO of Better Together, a communications agency focused on positive change through creative strategies and branding. With over 15 years in public relations, she specializes in education, environment, and social justice. Catharine has led campaigns that changed perceptions and behaviors. She holds degrees in Public Relations and Marketing from Auburn University, an MBA from the University of Maryland, and completed the Vital Voices Visionaries Program with Estée Lauder.Additional Resources:

• Catharine Montgomery @ LinkedIn
• Better Together PR Agency
• Download Report: Addressing Biases in Generative AI

About Creativity & Robots:

“A love letter to human creativity, with AI as the stage prop.”

Creativity & Robots is a podcast about human creativity in the age of AI. Creative Strategist and host ⁠⁠⁠⁠Juan Faisal⁠⁠⁠⁠ interviews creative professionals in various fields to explore the relationship between human creativity and generative AI and how it influences our creative process, the work we do, and the media we consume.

Whether you're a seasoned expert or just starting out, join us to learn how generative AI can boost your creativity. We'll also discuss ethical implications and question the tech buzz when it doesn't add up.

Subscribe to Creativity & Robots here!

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