When it comes to selling a law firm, most attorneys focus on client lists, revenue, and team structure. But there's another, often overlooked asset that can significantly increase a firm's value: systems. In this episode, Victoria explains how well-documented systems can turn a law practice into a scalable, sellable business.

She explains what "systems" really mean in a legal context and why investing in them now can pay off in both time and valuation later. Whether you plan to sell soon or not at all, this episode lays out a smarter way to build a law firm that works without you.

3 Key Takeaways

1.⁠ ⁠A law firm's value goes beyond clients and staff. There's a critical piece that often gets overlooked. 2.⁠ ⁠There are five core areas of your practice where systems can transform efficiency and growth. 3.⁠ ⁠You can take a simple first step to start building systems without feeling overwhelmed.

Victoria Collier is a seasoned attorney, entrepreneur, and expert in law firm sales and valuations. With a background in law and accounting, including her prior military service and CPA training, she brings a unique perspective on the financial intricacies of business valuations. Victoria helps transform law firms into more valuable and sellable businesses, guiding attorneys through life after law.

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If your law firm is already doing seven figures, or closing in on it, this year is not about grinding harder or piling on more tactics. It is about building something that works without you. Something that creates real value. Something someone else would actually want to buy.

In this episode of Smart Lawyers Position to Transition, host Victoria Collier kicks off the year with a reflective conversation about what comes next for seven-figure law firm owners who are thinking beyond growth and starting to think about transition.

Victoria explains why revenue growth does not automatically mean value growth, and why many firms that look successful on the outside feel heavy, fragile, and owner-dependent on the inside. Drawing from real valuation data and years of advising law firm owners, she breaks down the mindset shift required to move from operator to designer of a firm that is sustainable, transferable, and ultimately sellable.

This episode is a wake-up call for owners who have built impressive revenue but are still the bottleneck for decisions, operations, and outcomes.

What You'll Learn

•⁠ ⁠Why growing revenue without growing value limits your future options •⁠ ⁠The critical difference between a profitable firm and a sellable one •⁠ ⁠Why seven-figure firms often become more owner-dependent instead of less •⁠ ⁠The three questions every law firm owner should ask to assess true firm value •⁠ ⁠How thinking like a buyer changes how you lead, design systems, and build teams

If you are ready to start positioning your firm for transition, now is the time to listen.

Victoria Collier is a seasoned attorney, entrepreneur, and expert in law firm sales and valuations. With a background in law and accounting, including her prior military service and CPA training, she brings a unique perspective on the financial intricacies of business valuations. Victoria helps transform law firms into more valuable and sellable businesses, guiding attorneys through life after law.

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In this episode, host Victoria Collier explores a surprising trend currently shifting the legal M&A landscape: "Switching Sides." Victoria shares insights into why law firm owners who enter the market with the intent to buy and scale often end up deciding to sell and simplify. By turning the mirror on their own practices and looking at real data, many attorneys are discovering that the life they want—whether that involves more time with family or a return to practicing law without the management headaches—is closer than they realized. This conversation is a must-listen for any firm owner curious about the true value of their business and the strategic paths available to them.

What You'll Learn

•⁠ ⁠The Mindset Shift: Why proactive buyers are suddenly realizing that selling is their better strategic move. •⁠ ⁠The Valuation Gap: The common reasons why most law firm owners have no idea what their business is actually worth. •⁠ ⁠The "Second Job" Burden: How to identify if the weight of firm management is holding you back from your true goals. •⁠ ⁠Strategic Timing: Why the end of the year is the peak season for making decisions that define your next chapter.

Victoria Collier is a seasoned attorney, entrepreneur, and expert in law firm sales and valuations. With a background in law and accounting, including her prior military service and CPA training, she brings a unique perspective on the financial intricacies of business valuations. Victoria helps transform law firms into more valuable and sellable businesses, guiding attorneys through life after law.

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In this special episode of the Smart Lawyers Position to Transition Podcast, we're doing something a bit different. For the first time, our host Victoria Collier is pulling back the curtain on five specific, "hot and fresh" opportunities currently on the market. If you've been looking for a way to propel your law firm further and faster, this deep dive into five active estate planning listings is the perfect place to start.

From the beaches of Hawaii to the rugged beauty of Alaska, Victoria breaks down the numbers, the lifestyle benefits, and the unique "unicorn" features of firms currently listed for sale through Quid Pro Quo. Whether you are a solo practitioner looking to scale, an associate ready to own your first practice, or a large firm seeking a strategic acquisition, this episode reveals what is actually available in the current marketplace.

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About Victoria Collier

Victoria Collier is a seasoned attorney, entrepreneur, and expert in law firm sales and valuations. With a background in law and accounting, including her prior military service and CPA training, she brings a unique perspective on the financial intricacies of business valuations. Victoria helps transform law firms into more valuable and sellable businesses, guiding attorneys through life after law.

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In this episode, host Victoria Collier dives into a surprising truth: solo law practices are often the simplest, cleanest, and fastest firms to sell.

Inspired by a buyer who was specifically excited to acquire a solo firm, Victoria unpacks why the simplicity and lean structure of one-lawyer practices are powerful assets, not drawbacks. If you are a solo practitioner thinking your firm is too small to sell, this episode is a must-listen for a major confidence boost and a shift in perspective.

In This Episode, You'll Learn

The Power of Simplicity: Why buyers often prefer solo firms.

The Buyer's Perspective: The true reason a strategic buyer was excited to purchase a solo practice.

Faster & Smoother Transitions: Why the solo model leads to faster closings, cleaner handoffs, and a quicker return on investment—the "express lane for law firm positions."

Loyalty Sells: Why solos have the most loyal, well-maintained client databases and how this built-in trust allows for a seamless, personal referral-style handoff to the new owner.

About Victoria Collier

Victoria Collier is a seasoned attorney, entrepreneur, and expert in law firm sales and valuations. With a background in law and accounting, including her prior military service and CPA training, she brings a unique perspective on the financial intricacies of business valuations. Victoria helps transform law firms into more valuable and sellable businesses, guiding attorneys through life after law.

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Are your goals too realistic? In this episode, host Victoria Collier unpacks the concepts from the book The Science of Scaling by Dr. Benjamin Hardy and Blake Erickson.

Victoria explores why setting "impossible goals"—like 10x-ing your revenue or removing yourself entirely from case management—is actually more effective than setting "stretch" goals. It's not just about business strategy; it is about neuroscience and psychology. She explains how aiming for the impossible forces your brain to rewire, filter out distractions, and demand that you evolve from a "doer" into a "visionary leader."

If you are a law firm owner stuck in the day-to-day grind, this episode will challenge you to lead from your future self and build a firm that gives you true freedom.

In this episode, you'll learn:

•⁠ ⁠The Trap of Realism: Why setting "achievable" goals is actually the biggest risk to your firm's growth—and the specific type of goal you need to set instead to trigger a breakthrough. •⁠ ⁠Flipping the Identity Script: The common misconception about personal growth that keeps lawyers trapped in the "doer" role, and the mental shift required to finally become the visionary. •⁠ ⁠The Neuroscience of Scaling: How to leverage your brain's Reticular Activating System (RAS) to automatically spot opportunities and solutions you are currently missing. •⁠ ⁠The 3-Stage Roadmap: Victoria breaks down Dr. Hardy's framework for moving a law firm from a chaotic practice to a streamlined, sellable business. •⁠ ⁠"Strategic Constraint": The uncomfortable but necessary filter you must apply to your daily decisions if you want to collapse the time it takes to scale. Victoria Collier is a seasoned attorney, entrepreneur, and expert in law firm sales and valuations. With a background in law and accounting, including her prior military service and CPA training, she brings a unique perspective on the financial intricacies of business valuations. Victoria helps transform law firms into more valuable and sellable businesses, guiding attorneys through life after law.

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Clarity is not something you hire. It is something you create. In this episode, host Victoria Collier explains why so many law firm owners look for a coach when what they really need is something far more powerful: stillness.

If you feel overwhelmed, uncertain, or stuck in constant motion, this conversation shows you why the answers you want are already inside you. You just haven't slowed down enough to hear them.

In this episode, you'll learn:

•⁠ ⁠Why lawyers confuse confusion with discomfort

•⁠ ⁠How constant reaction mode blocks intuition and big picture thinking

•⁠ ⁠What "white space moments" are and why they matter

•⁠ ⁠The three questions every law firm owner should ask during scheduled silence

•⁠ ⁠How your emotions reveal the real truth about what you want

•⁠ ⁠Why clarity comes from facts and data, not from drama

•⁠ ⁠How to align your goals with your actual values, not someone else's

•⁠ ⁠When coaching becomes valuable and when it does not

•⁠ ⁠One question that cuts through noise and reveals what matters most today

If you are considering coaching, selling, or restructuring your firm, start here. The clarity you want might not require a coach. It may require courage, quiet, and a notebook.

Victoria Collier is a seasoned attorney, entrepreneur, and expert in law firm sales and valuations. With a background in law and accounting, including her prior military service and CPA training, she brings a unique perspective on the financial intricacies of business valuations. Victoria helps transform law firms into more valuable and sellable businesses, guiding attorneys through life after law.

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Coaching has become the reflex answer for every challenge in the business world, especially for law firm owners. But here is the truth many people never hear. Most firm owners do not need a coach. At least not yet. In this episode, Victoria Collier breaks down when coaching truly helps and when it becomes an expensive distraction.

Victoria explains why vague goals lead to vague results, why clarity must come before coaching, and why comparison and fear push law firm owners into programs they are not ready for. She also outlines the specific scenarios where coaching delivers real value and where it does not.

If you have ever wondered whether you need a coach or simply need commitment, this episode will give you a clear test and a practical starting point.

In this episode you will learn

•⁠ ⁠Why "I just want to do better" is not a real goal •⁠ ⁠The three question coaching test that reveals if you are ready •⁠ ⁠The difference between a clarity problem and an accountability problem •⁠ ⁠Why law firm owners are especially vulnerable to unnecessary coaching •⁠ ⁠The scenarios where coaching creates real change in a firm •⁠ ⁠Why the most important voice you need to listen to may be your own

If you want to prepare your firm for growth, transition, or sale, start by asking the right questions. Clarity always comes before coaching.

Victoria Collier is a seasoned attorney, entrepreneur, and expert in law firm sales and valuations. With a background in law and accounting, including her prior military service and CPA training, she brings a unique perspective on the financial intricacies of business valuations. Victoria helps transform law firms into more valuable and sellable businesses, guiding attorneys through life after law.

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When it comes to selling or buying a law firm, numbers and contracts often steal the spotlight, but ethics are what make or break the deal. In this episode, host Victoria Collier goes into the ethical framework that governs law firm sales and explains how to navigate compliance without sacrificing client trust.

From competence and confidentiality to client notifications and handling trust accounts, Victoria walks through the key ABA rules every lawyer must understand, especially Rule 1.17, and shares practical insights for keeping your transaction ethical, professional, and smooth from start to finish.

What You'll Learn •⁠ ⁠Why Rule 1.17 is the backbone of ethical law firm sales •⁠ ⁠How to protect client confidentiality during due diligence and negotiations •⁠ ⁠What to include in a client notice letter (and when to send it) •⁠ ⁠The right way to handle conflict checks without breaching privacy •⁠ ⁠Best practices for transferring client files and trust funds safely •⁠ ⁠How to ethically market a law firm for sale under Rule 7.1 •⁠ ⁠Why ethics and profitability go hand in hand in successful law firm transitions

Victoria Collier is a seasoned attorney, entrepreneur, and expert in law firm sales and valuations. With a background in law and accounting, including her prior military service and CPA training, she brings a unique perspective on the financial intricacies of business valuations. Victoria helps transform law firms into more valuable and sellable businesses, guiding attorneys through life after law.

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Think you know your firm's profit? Think again. In this episode, host Victoria Collier breaks down one of the most misunderstood parts of selling a law firm: the true meaning of profit.

Victoria explains the critical differences between Net Profit, EBITDA, and SDE—and how each number tells a very different story about your law firm's financial health and value. Whether you're still growing your practice or preparing to sell, understanding these metrics can mean the difference between a fair price and leaving hundreds of thousands on the table.

You'll learn •⁠ ⁠Why "profit" isn't a one-size-fits-all term •⁠ ⁠The big mistake law firm owners make when relying on their tax returns •⁠ ⁠How EBITDA and SDE reveal your firm's true earning power •⁠ ⁠What buyers are really looking for in your financials •⁠ ⁠How to use these numbers to increase your valuation and negotiation leverage

Victoria Collier is a seasoned attorney, entrepreneur, and expert in law firm sales and valuations. With a background in law and accounting, including her prior military service and CPA training, she brings a unique perspective on the financial intricacies of business valuations. Victoria helps transform law firms into more valuable and sellable businesses, guiding attorneys through life after law.

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