Charlie Albanetti quit his 20-year political career to create something the cigar world had never seen: Abbina Craft Sipping Soda - the first non-alcoholic beverage specifically designed to pair with premium cigars.
In this episode, Charlie joins us alongside Big Rob from LA Cigar Collective to break down the science, passion, and craft behind Abbina's four unique flavors. From jerk-seasoned molasses to saffron and patchouli, these aren't your average sodas.
We dive into:
How Charlie went from politics to perfumery to craft beverages
The flavor science behind each of Abbina's four sodas
Why certain pairings unlock hidden notes in your cigars
Real insights from Big Rob on selling Abbina at his Louisiana lounge
The strategic shift to expand beyond cigar shops
What's next for Abbina (new flavors, zero sugar options, cans vs. bottles)
Whether you're looking for a sophisticated non-alcoholic pairing or just want to explore new dimensions in your favorite smokes, this conversation will change how you think about what's in your glass.
The Four Abbina Flavors:
Candlewood - Cherry, Amaretto, Earth, Oakmoss
Tower 44 - Saffron, Patchouli, Grapefruit, Rose
Vinnie - Allspice, Ginger, Molasses, Herbs
Royale - Coffee, Chocolate, Nuts, Vanilla
Chapter Markers
0:00 - Intro & What We're Smoking Tonight
2:30 - Meet Charlie Albanetti & The Birth of Abbina
8:30 - From Politics to Perfumery: Charlie's Unconventional Path
14:50 - Breaking Down All Four Abbina Flavors
24:30 - The Science of Pairing: Enhancement vs. Discovery
32:15 - Big Rob's Lounge Experience: How Abbina Sells at LACC
40:25 - Seasonal Preferences & Customer Favorites
45:10 - The Sober Community & Non-Alcoholic Options
52:00 - Flavor Chemistry 101: Patchouli, Saffron & More
1:00:15 - Temperature Matters: Why Cold is Critical
1:08:40 - The Strategic Pivot: Expanding Beyond Cigar Shops
1:15:30 - Packaging, Shipping & The Abbina Experience
1:23:45 - What's Next: New Flavors, Zero Sugar & Cans vs. Bottles
1:30:20 - Final Thoughts & Where to Find Abbina
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