In this episode, Brian welcomes guests Jim Peters and Joe Jenkins from Illinois, who share their remarkable encounters and experiences hiking in the Shawnee National Forest. Retired law enforcement officers, Jim and Joe recount a series of mysterious events, including strange buzzing sounds, unexplained lights, large whooping noises, and sightings of what they believe to be Bigfoot.

They discuss their transition from skeptics to believers over twelve years of research, gathering compelling audio, photos, and physical evidence. The conversation also touches on tree structures, feelings of foreboding, and a broader discussion on the nature of these phenomena, weighing the possibilities of flesh and blood creatures versus more paranormal explanations.

This episode offers an intriguing look into the world of Bigfoot research and the high strangeness encountered by seasoned investigators.


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00:00 Welcome and Introductions 00:37 Early Adventures and Unexpected Encounters 02:00 The Mysterious Buzzing Sound 05:10 Strange Lights in the Night 07:08 The First Howl and Bigfoot Realization 13:53 Ongoing Research and Strange Experiences 26:17 A Sheriff's Encounter with the Unknown 29:12 Gorilla or Bigfoot? 30:30 A Mysterious Encounter in the Timber 34:21 The Giant Nest Discovery 39:28 Tree Structures and Wood Knocks 44:04 Flesh and Blood vs. High Strangeness 50:00 Sharing Experiences and Final Thoughts

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