In this episode, Brian welcomes John from Indiana for a gripping conversation that dives headfirst into the strange, unsettling, and deeply fascinating edges of the paranormal. John shares his journey from lifelong skeptic to reluctant believer, a transformation sparked by a ghost hunt at the Randolph County Infirmary that challenged everything he thought he knew. From there, the experiences only escalate.

He recounts chilling encounters in Ohio’s Tar Hollow State Park, where unexplained stenches, heavy movements, and unnatural sounds hinted at something far from ordinary—possibly even Bigfoot itself.The conversation takes a darker turn as John describes a terrifying late-night drive that brought him face-to-face with a gray, humanoid figure crossing the road, an encounter eerily reminiscent of what many refer to as a “pale crawler.”

Together, Brian and John explore possible explanations for these phenomena, weaving in theories involving ancient Native American mounds, burial sites, and the idea that certain locations may act as catalysts for high strangeness. John also introduces his podcast, Myths, Monsters, and the Unexplained, where he continues to investigate cryptids, folklore, and firsthand encounters that refuse to fit neatly into our understanding of reality.

This episode blurs the line between skepticism and belief and asks the question: what happens when the unexplained starts following you home?

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