Talking out loud about the stuff that won’t leave us alone.
Ali Gordon joins us to talk about writing her novel We Have Reached the End of Our Show, and what it means to protect an idea while it’s still forming. We get into the creative instinct to share too early, how outside feedback can shape or derail a project, and why sometimes the best thing you can do is keep something to yourself until it’s ready.
This week’s Intos:
Ali brings:
• The new Pokémon game Poképia
Ali talks about falling deep into a game that blends Pokémon, Animal Crossing, and environmental storytelling, and why it resonated so strongly. We get into the idea of building a better world, what it says about how we treat our own, and why something playful can still carry real weight.
James brings:
• Taskmaster
James talks about revisiting Taskmaster and why it’s such a perfect showcase for comedians willing to look stupid, take risks, and actually play. We get into the difference between performers protecting their image versus embracing the chaos, and why that shift changes how we experience comedy.
Curt brings:
• The Drama (starring Robert Pattinson and Zendaya)
Curt talks about seeing The Drama and why it created such a visceral, uncomfortable, and electric theater experience. We get into stories that push emotional limits, how far honesty can go in relationships, and why sitting in discomfort can be one of the most powerful parts of watching something with an audience.
Along the way, the conversation keeps circling back to a bigger idea: how we engage with art. Whether it’s protecting a creative idea, escaping into a game, performing without self-consciousness, or sitting through something uncomfortable, we talk about what it actually means to be present with the things we’re into.
We talk about:
• Protecting ideas before they’re fully formed
• Why sharing too early can kill momentum
• Escapism vs building something meaningful
• Performers who embrace chaos vs protect their image
• Why discomfort can be a powerful part of storytelling
So… what are you into right now?
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