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  • Season 1 Finale: Lessons, Joys, and What's Next?

    Huge thanks to all our listeners for supporting us through a successful first season of Social Medicine On Air! 

    Tune in to hear Jonas, Brendan, and Raghav chat about what they learned in the last year, and what they are working on next.

    The team is hard at work on Season 2, with a whole new team of faces and personalities, and we absolutely cannot wait to share it all with you soon!!

    PLEASE reach out to us with thoughts/questions/ideas/concerns, we would be so grateful to hear from you at [email protected]


    With gratitude to our amazing audience,

    Jonas, Brendan, Raghav



    22 min
  • 20 | Indigenous Sovereignty In Health Systems | Cole Allick

    Cole Allick joins us today to talk about tribal healthcare in the United States, how to pursue Indigenous sovereignty in health systems, and changing narratives about Indigenous life and history. He shares about the I-T-U (Indian Health Service, Tribally-run, and urban) system of healthcare delivery, Indigenous renaissance, underfunding and creativity in Indigenous healthcare systems, the implications of Tribal enrollment, North Dakota, Indigenous wisdom as a 'radical act' instead of as a 'radical Other,' the importance of Indigenous spaces, and democratically designing clinical spaces with Elders in mind.


    Cole Allick MHA is a member of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa and is currently a PhD student in Indigenous Health at the University of North Dakota. He currently works with Washington Statue University as a Tribal Liaison and Outreach Coordinator at Partnerships for Native Health, working with WSU's medical school to create a rural, Tribal, and urban underserved Practice Based Research Network. He is passionate about Tribal sovereignty and healthcare delivery models across Indian Country.


    His recommended resources:

    • Lucero, Esther. 2011. "From Tradition to Evidence: Decolonization of the Evidence-based Practice System." Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, 43 (4), 319–324, doi.org/10.1080/02791072.2011.628925


      • Reclaiming Native Truth. 2018. "Changing the Narrative About Native Americans: A Guide For Allies." bit.ly/2OTqaYV. The rest of RNT's website also has helpful videos and resources.


        • Secaira, Manola. 2019. "Abigail Echo-Hawk on the Art and Science of 'Decolonizing Data'." Crosscut. bit.ly/3cWOqRO
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        • 19 | Fenced In Chios: Refugee Health and the Cruelty of Deterrence | Apostolos Veizis

          Apostolos Veizis (@AVeizis) offers a medical view from the frontlines of the ongoing refugee crisis, which as he explains, is not so much a "refugee crisis" as a crisis of logistics and lack of political will. We discuss the mental and physical health effects of life in overcrowded camps (in this case in the Greek islands), how these conditions are created and exacerbated by cruel policies of deterrence, the true drivers of mass migration from Syria and elsewhere, COVID in the camps, the 2016 EU-Turkey deal, and Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) as an example of a medical-humanitarian response to the crisis.


          Apostolos Veizis MD is the former Director of Medical Operational Support Unit of MSF Greece, and is presently the Executive Director of INTERSOS in Greece. He had worked as Head of Mission and Medical Coordinator for Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) and Médecins du Monde(MDM) in Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Russian Federation, Albania, Egypt, Georgia, Greece, Turkey, and participated inassessment, emergency assignments and evaluations in Kyrgyzstan, Morocco, Armenia, Lebanon, Syria, Ukraine, Turkmenistan, Zambia, Malawi, Uzbekistan, North Macedonia, Cyprus and Tajikistan. He actively participates in international and national medical congresses and contributes to the literature on refugee issues and health. 


          Recommended Resources:

          • "Greece - Invisible Suffering of Migrants & Asylum Seekers | MSF" (2014, video), bit.ly/2PKgQ9J


            • "Migration and Health: Medical and Humanitarian Assistance for People on the Move, MSF Experiences and Challenges" (2016, video), bit.ly/3v3aSkn


              • "Apostolos Veizis: On the front line of the refugee and migrant crisis in Greece," WHO, bit.ly/3kVav72


                • Veizis, A (2020). "Commentary: 'Leave No One Behind' and Access to Protection in the Greek Islands in the COVID‐19 Era," International Migration 58(3), bit.ly/3v2742W 
                • 55 min
                • 18 | Dance, Healing, Justice | Shilpa Darivemula

                  Shilpa Darivemula discusses the connection between traditional dance, medicine, trauma, and healing. She explains the way that traditional dance allows renarration of identity, how classical Indian dance can tell non-traditional stories, how pairing medicine and dance addresses inequities, the danger of instrumentalizing art, and how medical environments can be seen as places of art. 


                  Shilpa Darivemula is a resident physician in Obstetrics and Gynecology and Creative Director of the Aseemkala Initiative. Shilpa began training in Kuchipudi at the age of 8 at the Academy of Kuchipudi  Dance and performed her solo debut recital—her Rangapravesham—in 2011 at the Kalanidhi Dance school. She continues to perform medical narratives, conduct research and address racial and social inequity in healthcare through her work with the Aseemkala Initiative.


                  Her recommended resources:

                  • Aseemkala Initiative, "Mahavidyas in Medicine," bit.ly/2OWeOCU


                    • Shilpa Darivemula and Roshni Prakash, "Performing My First Caesarean: A Reflection on the Intersection of Dance and Surgery," The Intima, bit.ly/3dFiEuz


                      • Shilpa Darivemula (2020). "Addressing OB/GYN Care Access for Refugee Women Using Traditional Dance Exchanges," BMJ Medical Humanities Blog, bit.ly/2NwC2iI


                        • Mallika Sarabhai (2009). "Dance to Change the World," TEDIndia, bit.ly/3uk3cKl


                          • Kavita Ramdas (2009). "Radical Women, Embracing Tradition," TEDIndia, bit.ly/2Nv78Hm


                            • Krieger, N (2005). "Embodiment: a conceptual glossary for epidemiology," J Epidemiol Community Health, bit.ly/37HZjoJ


                              • Alliance for California Traditional Arts, Saludarte, bit.ly/2NPT0Zk


                                • Alice Proujansky (2019). "The Black Midwives Changing Care for Women of Color (Photo Essay)," The Guardian, bit.ly/3dMIIDU


                                  • "Spirit of Birth (film)," Working It Out Together: A Magazine for Contemporary, bit.ly/3dG9fTE

                                  • 1 hr
                                  • 17 | Two-Eyed Sight: Indigenous Science, Existence, and Planetary Health | Nicole Redvers

                                    Nicole Redvers (@DrNicoleRedvers) joins us to speak about Indigenous ways of knowing, the necessity for protecting Indigenous lands and ways of life, and the necessity for integration of traditional knowledge and Western science in the pursuit of human and planetary health. She discusses the need for truth-telling and reconciliation; how Indigenous communities have resisted colonialism, extraction, and exploitation across Turtle Island; and how reciprocal knowledge is a gift.


                                    Dr. Nicole Redvers ND MPH is a member of the Deninu K’ue First Nation and has worked with various Indigenous patients and communities around the globe helping to bridge the gap between traditional and modern medical systems. She is co-founder and chair of the Arctic Indigenous Wellness Foundation based in the Canadian North, winning a $1 million dollar prize for work with homeless and at-risk people in northern Canada. She is actively involved in international efforts ot include indigenous perspectives in planetary health and sustainable healthcare education (SHE), and sits on a number of national and international committees. Se is the author of The Science of the Sacred: Bridging Global Indigenous Medicine Systems and Modern Scientific Principles (North Atlantic Books, 2019) and is an Assistant Professor at the University of North Dakota. 


                                    Her recommended resources:

                                    • Redvers N, Blondin B (2020). "Traditional Indigenous medicine in North America: A scoping review." PLoS ONE, bit.ly/3p1MP0Z


                                      • Redvers N, Schultz C, Prince MV, Cunningham M, Jones R (2020). "Indigenous perspectives on education for sustainable healthcare." Med. Teach. bit.ly/2YXnhHO


                                        • Redvers, Nicole. The Science of the Sacred: Bridging Global Indigenous Medicine Systems and Modern Scientific Principles. North Atlantic Books, 2019. bit.ly/3a53OeC


                                          • Redvers N, Yellow Bird M, Quinn D, Yunkaporta T, Arabena K (2020). "Molecular Decolonization: An Indigenous Microcosm Perspective of  Planetary Health." Int. J. Environ. Res. Public Health. bit.ly/2OcPpED


                                            • Rooted Messages (website), bit.ly/3cWFNIB

                                            • Resources mentioned during the show:

                                              • Cultural Survival and the International Indian Treaty Council, "Respecting Our Traditional Science and Ways of Knowing: Indigenous Peoples’ Sovereignty, Lifeways, and Climate Change,” bit.ly/3cZTBlr


                                                • Redstone Statement (2010, pdf), bit.ly/2OqyVsN


                                                  • Schaefer, Carol. Grandmothers Counsel the World: Women Elders Offer Their Vision for Our Planet. Trumpeter, 2006. bit.ly/3cZTYMR
                                                  • 1 hr 2 min
                                                  • 16 | Epistemic Violence, Coloniality, and Reparations | Eugene Richardson

                                                    Eugene Richardson (@real_ironist) joins us to discuss how global public health continues to use colonial frameworks for understanding health and disease, including for COVID-19 and Ebola modeling, and the need for reparations for health equity. He discusses how desocialized statistics support an unjust status quo, and how better forms of knowing can lead towards a world of justice.


                                                    Eugene Richardson MD PhD is an infectious disease physician and anthropologist who previously served as the clinical lead for Partners In Health’s Ebola response in Kono District, Sierra Leone, and has worked with the WHO and Africa CDC coordinating infectious disease response. His research focuses on biosocial approaches to epidemic disease prevention, containment, and treatment in sub-Saharan Africa; as part of this effort, he is chair of the Lancet Commission on Reparations and Redistributive Justice. He recently released Epidemic Illusions: On the Coloniality of Global Public Health (MIT Press, 2020): bit.ly/3cdhB4h.


                                                    His recommended resources:

                                                    • Schwab, Tim (2020). "Are Bill Gates’s Billions Distorting Public Health Data?", The Nation: bit.ly/3pnPIu1

                                                      • Mbembe, Achille (2008). "What is Postcolonial Thinking? An Interview with Achille Mbembe", Eurozine: bit.ly/39kqjvP

                                                        • Richardson, Eugene (2020). "Colonizer, Interrupted", Democratic Left: bit.ly/3iSPkBh

                                                          • Vannini, Phillip (2008). "Critical Pragmatism," in The SAGE Encyclopedia of Qualitative Research Methods, ed. Lisa M. Given: bit.ly/2NDX3Yx

                                                          • 57 min
                                                          • 15 | The Long War: Settler Colonialism and Health in Israel-Palestine | Osama Tanous

                                                            Osama Tanous joins us to speak of the medical impacts of life in the long occupation of Palestine. We discuss what 'settler colonialism' is, the challenge of apolitical 'humanitarian' approaches, the political-medical-historical-economic connection, and the way that Palestine exemplifies the medical effects of structural violence. 


                                                            Osama Tanous MD is a Palestinian pediatrician based in Haifa and is in the late stages of his Masters in Public Health from Tel Aviv University. He is currently a Fulbright Hubert Humphrey fellow in public health and health policies. Osama is a researcher for the Galilee society and a clinical instructor at the Technion. His research interests include structural violence, settler colonialism and health disparities.


                                                            Related Resources:

                                                            • Osama Tanous, "The Dilemmas of Practicing Humanitarian Medicine in Gaza," MERIP, bit.ly/3bzcY4b

                                                              • The Red Nation webinar, "Friday Night Forums 5: Palestine and the Blockade on Gaza w/ Osama Tanous, Noura Erakat & Ziad Abbas", bit.ly/38wdMVz

                                                                • Jewish Voices for Peace's Health Advisory Council webinar with Osama Tanous, bit.ly/3qfwXZZ

                                                                  • Osama Tanous, "A New Episode of Erasure in the Settler Colony," Critical Times In the Midst (blog), bit.ly/3i3FiNm

                                                                    • Osama Tanous, "Coronavirus outbreak in the time of apartheid," Al Jazeera, bit.ly/3nCBGTH

                                                                      • Osama Tanous, "COVID-19: Health Disparities Put Palestinians inside Israel at Risk," Institute for Palestine Studies, bit.ly/3sgcxSl

                                                                        • Osama Tanous, "When Pandemics Hit Militarized Urban Spaces," Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung, bit.ly/2LDZc5A

                                                                        • 1 hr 7 min
                                                                        • 14 | Mental Health, Individualism, and the Economy | "It's Not Just In Your Head"

                                                                          Podcast crossover episode! 


                                                                          Harriet and Max, hosts of the "It's Not Just In Your Head" podcast, join us today to discuss mental health, how capitalism accelerates inequality and social breakdown, and how most approaches to mental health care support neoliberal individualism. They explain the connection between personal and social liberation, our need for one another, the value and pitfalls of medication-based approaches, the need for a strong labor movement and organizing, and how mental health is inextricably bound to social conditions. 


                                                                          "It's Not Just In Your Head" is a podcast with Harriet Fraad (@harrietfraad) and Max Golding, two mental health professionals who explore how our capitalist economic system impacts our emotional lives, from precarious housing and employment, to unaffordable healthcare, to endless debt -- it's not just  in your head! Dr. Harriet Fraad is a mental health counselor and activist in New York City with over 45 years of experience, who writes and speaks on the intersection of politics, economics, and personal life; her work can be found at harrietfraad.com. Max Golding is a licenced marriage and family therapist from California who is interested in tenant and labor organizing, and connecting the struggle for mental health with other struggles for justice and liberation.


                                                                          Their recommended resources:

                                                                          • Mark Fisher. (2009). Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? Winchester, UK: Zero Books.


                                                                            • Capitalism Hits Home (podcast) with Dr. Harriet Fraad & Julianna Forlano, link


                                                                              • Kate Pickett & Wilkinson, Richard. (2010). The Spirit Level: Why Equality is Better for Everyone. London: Penguin Books.

                                                                              • 57 min

                                                                              About Social Medicine On Air

                                                                              From the publisher's feed

                                                                              Welcome to Social Medicine On Air, a podcast where we explore the field of social medicine with healthcare practitioners, activists, and researchers. We examine the deep causes of health and disease, and dream of a world of justice. We are: Jonas Attilus, Sebastian Fonseca, Raghav Goyal, Brendan Johnson, Leila Sabbagh, & Poetry Thomas.