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  • BONUS: Howard Waizkin Interviews Jonas and Brendan

    Curious about the hosts of the show? First, listen to Howard Waitzkin's episode from last week, then catch him here turning the tables on the hosts. We discuss our backgrounds, imposter syndrome, our paths to medicine, class, priviledge, accompaniment, spirituality, liberation theology, and the roots of social medicine in South America. 



    Resources relating to this episode:


    • Howard Waitzkin, “Is Our Work Dangerous? Should It Be?,” Journal of Health and Social Behavior 39, no. 1 (1998): 7–17, bit.ly/2Jx4UoV


      • TEDx Talks, The Success of Nonviolent Civil Resistance: Erica Chenoweth at TEDxBoulder, 2013, bit.ly/39SGocR.


        • Clodovis Boff and Leonardo Boff, “A Concise History of Liberation Theology,” bit.ly/2LmHovz


          • Paul Farmer and Gustavo Gutiérrez, In the Company of the Poor: Conversations Between Dr. Paul Farmer and Fr. Gustavo Gutierrez, ed. Michael P. Griffin and Jennie Weiss Block (Maryknoll, NY: Orbis Books, 2013), bit.ly/3gsaJQI


            • Paul Farmer, “Sacred Medicine,” Sojourners Magazine; Washington (Washington, United States, Washington: Sojourners, January 2014), bit.ly/3n1zhCF
            • 38 min
            • 13 | Life Beyond Capitalism? | Howard Waitzkin

              Howard Waitzkin speaks with us today about reimagining life and medicine after capitalism. A humble giant in the field of social medicine, Howard helps to unpack how capitalism is destructive for the earth, for healthcare systems, and for social life. How can individuals and communities work towards non-violent, "rinky-dink" action against the systems which are destroying us? 


              Howard Waitzkin MD PhD is Distinguished Professor Emeritus in the Department of Sociology and former director of community medicine at the University of New Mexico, a prolific scholar and practitioner of social medicine, and a tireless activist across North and South America for universal and accessible healthcare. His own family background of poverty led him to life-long questions on inequality, public health, oppression, capitalism, and medicine. 


              Resources written by Howard:

              • Rinky-Dink Revolution: Moving Beyond Capitalism by Withholding Consent, Creative Constructions, and Creative Destructions, by Howard Waitzkin, (Ottawa: Daraja Press, 2020), bit.ly/2VsxyKj 

                • Howard Waitzkin, “Is Our Work Dangerous? Should It Be?,” Journal of Health and Social Behavior 39, no. 1 (1998): 7–17, bit.ly/2Jx4UoV

                  • Howard Waitzkin et al., “Social Medicine Then and Now: Lessons From Latin America,” American Journal of Public Health 91, no. 10 (October 2001): 1592–1601, bit.ly/39yHwC2

                    • Howard Waitzkin, “One and a Half Centuries of Forgetting and Rediscovering: Virchow’s Lasting Contributions to Social Medicine,” Social Medicine 1, no. 1 (February 25, 2006): 5–10. bit.ly/2I0uh1E

                      • Out soon: Social Medicine and the Coming Transformation, by Howard Waitzkin, Alina Pérez, Matt Anderson (New York: Routledge, 2020) bit.ly/2JI2JPm

                      • 1 hr 10 min
                      • 12 | Accountability and Advocacy in Global Health Financing | Leena Yumeen and Maria Pennella

                        Today we hear from Leena Yumeen and Maria Pennella, and discuss the importance of accountability in global health funding. They explain the importance of advocacy in influencing these systems and, during the COVID-19 pandemic, the importance of not backsliding on the fight against global killers like tuberculosis.


                        Leena Yumeen is an Advocacy Fellow with the Fund for Global Health, an organization focused on increasing the effectiveness of global health programs and international health aid through research and lobbying. She is pursuing a Bachelors in Political Science at Columbia University, and has also worked with Partners in Health on congressional lobbying and citizen outreach.


                        Maria Pennella received her bachelors in health sciences from the University of Central Florida. Since graduating in 2018, she has worked for a cultural exchange program in Tanzania and become involved as an Advocacy Fellow with the Fund for Global Health. “Thinking Globally, Acting Locally”, is her guiding quote that pushed her to get involved in lobbying for equitable global health funding and policies within US Congress.


                        Their recommended resources:


                        • Farrer L, Marinetti C, Cavaco YK, Costongs C. Advocacy for health equity: a synthesis review. Milbank Q. 2015;93(2):392-437. Full Text.

                          • Mandavilli, A. (2020) '‘The Biggest Monster’ Is Spreading. And It’s Not the Coronavirus.’, The New York Times, 3 August. Article.

                            • WHO Tuberculosis & Covid-19 Q&A: https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/tuberculosis-and-the-covid-19-pandemic

                              • The Fund for Global Health on accountability and outcomes reporting: https://www.fundforglobalhealth.org/outcomes-reporting
                              • 51 min
                              • 11 | Narrative Therapy and Liberation | Tanvi Avasthi

                                Tanvi Avasthi (@tanvicious) speaks with us today about narrative therapy, loss and trauma, and the power of asking "what do you want?" to recenter our patients as protagonists of their own lives. She explains how we can avoid pathologizing our patients and ourselves, and how we can resist the forces of white supremacy and capitalism which are attempting to destroy us and make us hate ourselves. She shows us a way of beautifully holding the humanity, justice, and poetry of healing together.


                                SMOA producer Raghav Goyal joins this conversation as cohost.



                                Tanvi holds masters degrees in Medical Anthropogy and in Nursing and currently works as an ER nurse in Batimore, and is a future Midwife and Women's Health Nurse Practitioner. In addition to her clinical work, she also has experience working as a doula and yoga instructor, and we know her through her work as one of the co-founders of the Campaign Against Racism, an activist group with  chapters all around the world, that is using tools of restorative  justice, narrative therapy, and community organizing to effect local and  systems wide change.


                                Her recommended resources:


                                • Narrative Medicine Suggested Questions (PDF), bit.ly/2I14rdN

                                  • Narrative Therapy slides (Campaign Against Racism online presentation, Tanvi Avasthi, 2020), bit.ly/2Gt1h1X

                                    • Charon R, Wyer P; NEBM Working Group. Narrative evidence based medicine. Lancet. 2008 Jan 26;371(9609):296-7. bit.ly/389Aweb

                                      • Kleinman A, Benson P. Anthropology in the clinic: the problem of  cultural competency and how to fix it. PLoS Med. 2006 Oct;3(10):e294. bit.ly/2JunJZy
                                      • 1 hr 17 min
                                      • 10 | Mobilizing Medicine Against the Climate Crisis | Harleen Marwah

                                        Harleen Marwah (@ThereGoesHarMar) dives into the conversation on the links between health, healing, and the climate crisis - and how people in healthcare can work for a healthier world. Recorded in the midst of the record-setting 2020 California fires, we discuss the health effects of a climate in crisis, climate grief, connecting clinical work with a larger ecological consciousness, and how she has organized healthcare students for change.


                                        Harleen Marwah is the Founder and Chair of Medical Students for a Sustainable Future (MS4SF),  a community of over 260 medical students from around the world, and she has collaborated with the United Nations on the Paris Agreement. She is currently a current fourth year medical student at the George Washington University School of Medicine & Health Sciences, and looks forward to working towards a healthier, more just and equitable future as a pediatrician. 


                                        Extinction Rebellion "Heading for Extinction" talk (27" video): bit.ly/2ILFeUQ


                                        Harleen Marwah's recommended resources:

                                        • Watts,  N, et al. 2019. "The 2019 Report  Of The Lancet Countdown On Health And Climate Change: Ensuring That The  Health Of A Child Born Today Is Not Defined By A Changing Climate". The Lancet 394 (10211): 1836-1878. bit.ly/34h9jDX

                                          • Gillis, Justin. 2017. "Climate Change Is Complex. We’Ve Got Answers To Your Questions." New York Times, Nytimes.com. nyti.ms/34iWSI8

                                            • Patz, J. 2018. Climate Change Is Affecting Our Health. Is There A Cure?. TEDxOshkosh. (19" video) bit.ly/3kj2Spz

                                              • Holder, C. 2020. The link between climate change, health and poverty. TedMed. (13" video) bit.ly/2HoLzW3
                                              • 51 min
                                              • 9 | Teenage Motherhood and HIV | Sasheenie Moodley

                                                Sasheenie Moodley (@SasheenieM) discusses the complexities of teenage motherhood, HIV, family dynamics, and navigating poverty in the townships of her native South Africa. She explains dynamics of familial expectation and young mothers being "hidden away," how one reveals HIV or pregnancy status, dreams of future success, and her experience doing research as an insider-outsider.


                                                Sasheenie Moodley MPH was born and grew up in South Africa and pursued her PhD at the University of Oxford, where she works with pregnant teenagers and teenage mothers in Botshabelo, South Africa. This research explores what life is like - during and after teenage pregnancy – through the lens of HIV. Sasheenie is currently a medical student at the University of Virginia.


                                                Her recommended resources: 


                                                • Long, C. (2009). Contradicting maternity: HIV-positive motherhood in South Africa. Johannesburg: WITS University Press. 

                                                  • Macleod, C. (2003). Teenage pregnancy and the construction of adolescence: Scientific literature in South Africa. Childhood, 10(4), 419-437. bit.ly/30GMlEj

                                                    • Mkhwanazi, N. (2014). Revisiting the dynamics of early childbearing in South African townships. Culture, Health & Sexuality, 16(9), 1084-1096. bit.ly/2GvdCCV

                                                      • Mkhwanazi, N. (2010). Understanding teenage pregnancy in a post-apartheid South African township. Culture, Health & Sexuality, 12(4), 347–358. bit.ly/30MZgoe

                                                        • Ngabaza, S. (2011). Positively pregnant: Teenage women’s experiences of negotiating pregnancy with their families. Agenda: Empowering Women for Gender Equity, 25(3), 42-51. bit.ly/34RLouf

                                                          • Steinberg, J. (2013). Working through a paradox about sexual culture in South Africa: Tough sex in the twenty-first century. Journal of Southern African Studies, 39(3), 497-509. bit.ly/34Ddg4R

                                                            • Toska, E., Cluver, L., Pantelic, M., & Hodes, R. (2017). To know or not to know? HIV-status disclosure and protective sexual practices among adolescent girls and boys in South Africa. Centre for Social Science Research University of Cape Town. bit.ly/36KDPbe

                                                              • Vale, B., Hodes, R., & Cluver, L. (2016). Negotiations of blame and care among HIV-positive mothers and daughters in South Africa’s eastern cape. Medical Anthropology Quarterly, bit.ly/34FsztM


                                                              • 55 min
                                                              • 8 | Medical Ethics During A Pandemic | Tim Lahey

                                                                Tim Lahey (@TimLaheyMD) joins us today to discuss medical ethics during a pandemic and states of emergency, and questions of allocation, ventilator scarcity, and systemic injustice. We also talk about medical education, justice, power and privilege, collaboration towards institutional change, vocation, and the temptations of pride and righteous anger in this work. 


                                                                This special episode also features SMOA producer Raghav Goyal as a co-host! 


                                                                Tim Lahey, MD, MMSc, is an infectious diseases physician, ethicist, and professor of medicine who has conducted research on vaccine immunology, Tb, and HIV. He directs ethics at the University of Vermont Medical Center and has participated in ethics and social justice education with medical students for over a decade. Beyond his academic publications, you can read Tim’s stories for the New York Times, Washington Post and other popular outlets here.


                                                                His recommended resources include: 


                                                                • Emanuel,  Ezekiel J., et al. 2020. "Fair Allocation Of Scarce Medical Resources In The Time  Of Covid-19". New England Journal Of Medicine 382 (21): 2049-2055. doi:10.1056/nejmsb2005114. (Full Text): bit.ly/3mJ3yGl

                                                                  • Sederstrom, Nneka O. 2020. "Unblinded: Systematic Racism, Institutional Oppression, And Colorblindness". Bioethics.Net. (blog): bit.ly/3iXmoHz

                                                                    • Toner, Eric, et al. 2020. "Interim Framework For COVID-19 Vaccine Allocation And Distribution In The United States". Johns Hopkins Center For Health Security. (PDF) bit.ly/3hR8XI1
                                                                    • 1 hr 10 min
                                                                    • 7 | Medical Activism | Andrew Goldstein

                                                                      Andrew Goldstein discusses his experience of activism and medicine. We discuss how he first stepped into activism, the challenges of non-profit work, how healthcare workers can get involved in organizing, leader-full movements, the temptations of professional "success," and the dangers of waiting until the "right moment" to begin this work.


                                                                      Andrew Goldstein MD, MPH (@AndrewMakeTweet) is an assistant professor at NYU who practices primary care at Bellevue, especially for those with high medical need and experiencing homelessness. His medical activism has focused on healthcare, immigration, climate, and gun violence. He also focuses on civic habit building, election action, narrative shifting, escalated tactics like civil disobedience and protest, and health worker organizing.


                                                                      His recommended resources:


                                                                      • "Beyond the Non-Profit Industrial Complex," Incite-National.org, (website): bit.ly/3bK26ia

                                                                        • "Jane McAlevey on Organizing vs. Mobilizing," Current Affairs (podcast): apple.co/2Rfu1g9

                                                                          • "Movement Strategy, 1. Momentum, Introduction to the Dominant Systems," from Momentum/Anyi Institute (video): bit.ly/3ieNHgi
                                                                          • 1 hr 1 min
                                                                          • 6 | Decolonizing Global Health | Laura Mkumba

                                                                            Laura Mkumba discusses the colonial history of the field of global health and the necessity of decolonizing global health. We consider how proximity to whiteness, maternal-fetal outcomes, global health work and education, privilege, and our thoughts all reflect histories of coloniality.  


                                                                            Laura Mkumba (@laura_mkumba) is a native of Dar-Es-Salaam, Tanzania by way of Atlanta, GA. She received her Master of Science in Global Health from Duke University, where she co-founded the Duke Decolonizing Global Health Working Group in 2018. She has spent the last decade working in international and domestic HIV/AIDS research as well as mental health, health equity, adolescent health, and sexual/reproductive health of sexual and gender minorities. 


                                                                            This week saw the recent passing of Chadwick Boseman. We hope this  episode honors his memory, his powerful legacy, and all he stood for.


                                                                            Laura Mkumba's recommended resources:

                                                                            • Fine, P. (2020). The future of global development: Decolonizing global health and development. (Interview) bit.ly/3jy8wU2  
                                                                            • Karan, A. (2020). Opinion: It's Time To End The Colonial Mindset In Global  Health. n.pr/34Y4Irl  
                                                                            • Tuck, E., & Yang, K. W. (2012). Decolonization is not a metaphor. Decolonization: Indigeneity, education & society, 1(1). (PDF) bit.ly/32S4ajU
                                                                            • 57 min
                                                                            • 5 | The Social Construction of Knowledge | Ruth Staus

                                                                              Ruth Staus discusses the necessity of the social sciences in the medical field, the "scientific" foundations of race, teaching, trauma, and her clinical work with her unhoused patients.   


                                                                              Dr. Ruth Staus DNP, APRN, ANP-BC is a professor of nursing, global health and social medicine who has been practicing community-based primary care as a nurse practitioner for 25 years. Her scholarly work is focused on the effects of racism on health and she is currently involved in social activism related to structural racism, housing and health.


                                                                              Her recommended resources:

                                                                              • Moran-Thomas, A. (2020). How a Popular Medical Device Encodes Racial Bias. Bostonreview.net. (website) bit.ly/3jecfpJ  
                                                                              • Acquaviva, Kimberly D., Mintz, Matthew (2010) Are We Teaching Racial Profiling? The Dangers of Subjective Determinations of Race and Ethnicity in Case Presentations, Acad Med. 85(4), 702-705. (Full text) bit.ly/31tRDDI  
                                                                              • Ortiz, A. "Liberation in the Exam Room," (PDF) bit.ly/32yfYrE  
                                                                              • Oliver, J., "Bias In Medicine: Last Week Tonight," (Youtube video) bit.ly/3hwu1E7
                                                                              • 1 hr 2 min

                                                                              About Social Medicine On Air

                                                                              From the publisher's feed

                                                                              Welcome to Social Medicine On Air, a podcast where we explore the field of social medicine with healthcare practitioners, activists, and researchers. We examine the deep causes of health and disease, and dream of a world of justice. We are: Jonas Attilus, Sebastian Fonseca, Raghav Goyal, Brendan Johnson, Leila Sabbagh, & Poetry Thomas.