This interview was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2024.
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Diana Montalion - Systems Architect, Mentrix Founder & Author of "Learning Systems Thinking"
Kris Jenkins - Developer Advocate, Software Developer, Podcast Host, Conference Speaker & Geek 

RESOURCES
Diana
https://bsky.app/profile/mentrix.bsky.social
https://hachyderm.io/@diana
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianamontalion
https://x.com/dianamontalion
https://github.com/dianamontalion
https://blog.montalion.com
https://learningsystemsthinking.com

Kris
https://bsky.app/profile/krisajenkins.bsky.social
https://www.linkedin.com/in/krisjenkins
https://github.com/krisajenkins
http://blog.jenkster.com

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Diana Montalion • Learning Systems Thinking
Andrew Harmel-Law • Facilitating Software Architecture
Donella H. Meadows • Thinking in Systems
Donella H. Meadows • Limits to Growth
Robert M. Pirsig • Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

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