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All My Precious Madness is available at bookshops, both good and evil.
In this conversation, novelist Mark Bowles joins Jack and Milo to discuss his debut novel All My Precious Madness, a voice-driven, rage-filled, lyrical work about Henry Nash: an academic turned telesales worker whose inner life spills out through invective, memory, fantasy, grief, class resentment, and strange beauty.
The discussion begins with Mark’s early reading life, from Treasure Island and Enid Blyton to the shock of discovering Samuel Beckett. We talk about Beckett’s stripped-down language, floating voices, physical detail, and the formative experience of encountering a literature that seemed to open onto an entirely different world.
Much of the conversation centres on what it means to write a first novel. Mark reflects on the pressure and preciousness of the debut: the sense that a first book announces a voice, discloses something private, and gathers up material that may have been stored for years. We discuss how All My Precious Madness grew out of fragments, notebooks, and an insistent central voice rather than a conventional plot.
We also explore the influence of Thomas Bernhard and Walter Benjamin: rage, repetition, digression, fragments, the “left-handed” approach to thought, and the idea that some truths can only be reached indirectly. Along the way, we talk about autodidacticism, class, Oxford, northernness, high culture, business jargon, academia, and the ways language can be degraded by institutions.
Expect reflections on:
Samuel Beckett, Thomas Bernhard, and the literature of voice
Writing a first novel and the strange exposure of publication
Rage, lyricism, grief, melancholy, and comic invective
Autodidacticism, class, Oxford, and the labour of acquiring culture
Telesales, corporate language, and soul-destroying work
Academic jargon and the policing of intellectual tribes
Digression as literary method
Reading, audiobooks, and the reader’s role in creating a book
English humour, irony, resignation, and satire
Fantasy, inner life, and the “uncommitted crime” of art
In the later part of the conversation, Mark discusses his next novel, How Do People Stay the Same?, written as a backwards-moving journal across thirty years, as well as a further book inspired by the mysterious case of Peter Bergmann.
If you enjoy long-form conversations on literature, writing, style, philosophy, class, comedy, and the strange private life of fiction, subscribe to the channel and leave a comment below.
00:00:00 Fantasy, fiction, and inner life
00:01:19 Introduction to Mark B. and *All My Precious Madness*
00:04:31 Mark arrives
00:06:18 Poetic epigraph
00:09:24 Childhood reading, *Treasure Island*, and Beckett
00:13:44 Voice, physicality, and literary interiority
00:16:19 Becoming a writer
00:20:26 The pressure of the first novel
00:24:09 Voice, fragments, and Thomas Bernhard
00:30:16 Class, Oxford, and cultural self-invention
00:38:01 Silence, childhood, and imagination
00:40:10 Rage, lyricism, and catharsis
00:42:26 Telesales and soul-destroying work
00:46:24 Corporate language, academia, and jargon
00:54:50 Digression as method
01:01:18 Stream of consciousness and reading rhythm
01:05:55 Books, audiobooks, and the reader’s imagination
01:11:25 Humour, English irony, and resignation
01:18:00 Language, fantasy, and expression
01:22:23 Art as an uncommitted crime
01:24:27 Future novels and publication
01:29:24 Conclusion
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In this video Jack and Milo discuss their favourite works of fiction decade by decade, starting in 1800 and going 200 years, decade by decade, until they reach the borders of our present century. If you would like to be interviewed by us about your favourite books, please send an email.
1800s
Jack: Michael Kohlhaas - Heinrich Von Kleist
Milo: Heinrich Von Ofterdingen - Novalis
1810s
Jack: Frankenstein - Mary Shelley
Milo: Persuasion - Jane Austen
1820s
Jack: Don Juan - George Gordon Byron (If only prose allowed, The Red and the Black - Stendhal)
Milo: The Life and Opinions of the Tomcat Murr - ETA Hoffmann
1830s
Jack: The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym - Edgar Allan Poe
Milo - Nevsky Prospect - Nikolai Gogol
1840s
Jack: Wuthering Heights - Emily Brontë
Milo: Mr. Prokharchin - Fyodor Dostoevsky
1850s
Jack: David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
Milo: The Whale - Herman Melville
1860s
Jack: War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy
Milo: War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy
1870s
Jack: Middlemarch - George Eliot
Milo: Middlemarch - George Eliot
1880s
Jack: Three Men in a Boat - Jerome K Jerome
Milo: Thus Spoke Zarathustra - Friedrich Nietzsche
1890s
Jack: The Lady with the Dog - Anton Chekhov
Milo: New Grub Street - George Gissing
1900s
Jack: The Man Who Was Thursday - GK Chesterton
Milo: The Man Who Was Thursday - GK Chesterton
1910s
Jack: Of Human Bondage - W Somerset Maugham
Milo: The Great Wall of China - Franz Kafka
1920s
Jack: To the Lighthouse - Virginia Woolf
Milo: The Sound and the Fury - William Faulkner
1930s
Jack: Die Blendung/ Auto de fe - Elias Canetti
Milo: The Hobbit - J R R Tolkein
1940s
Jack: The Little Prince - Antoine de Saint Exupery
Milo: The Plague - Albert Camus
1950s
Jack: The End of the Affair - Graham Greene
Milo: The Last Temptation of Christ - Nikos Kazantzakis
1960s
Jack: Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole
Milo: The Phantom Tollbooth - Norton Juster
1970s
Jack: The Sea, The Sea - Iris Murdoch
Milo: Suttree - Cormac McCarthy
1980s
Jack: Extinction - Thomas Bernhard
Milo: Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole
1990s
Jack: Before and During - Vladimir Sharov
Milo: Infinite Jest - David Foster Wallace
00:00:00 Intro
00:04:45 1800s
00:12:52 1810s
00:24:20 1820s
00:30:24 1830s
00:37:38 1840s
00:48:35 1850s
00:55:22 1860s
00:59:29 1870s
01:05:25 1880s
01:10:41 1890s
01:17:42 1900s
01:22:07 1910s
01:28:50 1920s
01:37:22 1930s
01:47:48 1940s
01:53:51 1950s
02:05:49 1960s
02:12:44 1970s
02:19:49 1980s
02:27:15 1990s
02:36:12 Conclusion
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In this conversation, David Bentley Hart joins Jack and Milo to discuss among the most dangerous and controversial of all questions: where does morality come from? Is morality an evolutionary strategy for accruing power, or are love and compassion woven into the structure of being?
In philosophical, theological, literary, and evolutionary terms, Hart discusses the origins of moral instincts in humans and animals, the role of altruism and compassion in nature, and why he believes reductive accounts of morality ultimately fail to explain human experience. We talk about Nietzsche, Darwin, Dawkins, cooperation in nature, and the limits of evolutionary psychology.
Hart also reflects on Christianity’s moral revolution and argues that Christ represented a profound interruption in the moral imagination of the ancient world—placing the poor, the rejected, and the vulnerable at the center of ethical life. The discussion also touches on the Resurrection accounts, the Gospels, the Fall, late antiquity, slavery, philanthropy, and the relationship between love, truth, and spiritual transformation.
In the second half of the discussion we discuss literature, and where we put to Hart various author duels: Tolstoy or Dostoevsky, Chesterton or Wilde, Eliot or Dickens, Mann or Hesse.
Expect reflections on:
The metaphysical origins of morality
Whether animals and nature exhibit genuine moral behavior
Nietzsche, power, and the “discourse of suspicion”
Evolutionary psychology and The Selfish Gene
Christ’s challenge to ancient morality
Love, compassion, and the structure of reality
Cooperation, altruism, and the natural world
Otters, dolphins, crocodiles… and why philosophy should take them seriously
Plus: in the second half of the interview, Hart turns to literature, The Simpsons, baseball as beauty, and debates some of history’s greatest writers.
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Where do you think morality comes from?
00:00:00 Introduction
00:07:22 DBH arrives
00:08:55 Poetic epigraph
00:13:00 The metaphysical origins of morality
00:18:30 How Christ interrupted late-antique morality
00:32:00 Was Christ necessary to philanthropy
00:42:12 The Nietzschean view of moral origins
00:48:50 Is Ressentiment a Natural Condition, Co-operative Evolution
00:56:00 Otters! Darwinian Reductionaism. Dawkins Bashing
01:00:20 Did we mechanise nature to morally neautralise it?
01:05:12 Terrence Malick - The Tree of Life - Jonh Ford
01:13:30 Walt Disney - Tolkein on Disney
01:21:50 Tolstoy vs. Dostoevsky
01:28:18 Oscar Wilde vs. G.K. Chesterton
01:35:49 Charles Dickens vs. George Eliot
01:38:50 Coffee - Balzac - Rodin - England
01:44:00 Thomas Mann vs. Hermann Hesse
01:47:09 Graham Hancock - Atlantis
01:52:25 Decline in reading - Nostalgia
01:55:19 Ecclesiastes vs. The Song of Songs - Swift vs. Defore - Whitman vs. Wordsworth
01:59:09 The Simpsons
02:04:30 Base ball
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In this long-form conversation, Milo and Jack speak with translator Simon Pare about the challenge of translating The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann for Oxford World’s Classics.
This discussion explores the language, style, and enormous technical challenges behind bringing one of the greatest novels of the 20th century into English. Simon discusses his new 2026 translation of The Magic Mountain, the legacy of earlier translators, and the strange experience of living inside Mann’s vast novel while translating it.
Topics include:
• Why Thomas Mann is so difficult to translate
• The challenge of translating The Magic Mountain’s long German sentences
• Hans Castorp, time, and the atmosphere of Davos
• Translation choices, compromises, and literary voice
• Settembrini, Naphta, Behrens, and Peeperkorn’s speech styles
• The legacy of H. T. Lowe-Porter and later English translations
• Translation theory and literary translation in practice
• Switzerland, Thomas Mann, and the culture surrounding the novel
• The relationship between language, rhythm, and character
The Magic Mountain (Der Zauberberg) began as a short novella inspired by Thomas Mann’s visit to a Davos sanatorium and grew into a monumental meditation on time, illness, modernity, and European intellectual life before the First World War.
This interview focuses primarily on translation and language. A separate discussion with Richie Robertson on the novel’s themes and content will follow.
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This long-form conversation explores the New Testament, the four Gospels, and the problem of biblical interpretation with New Testament scholar John Nelson. Together we examine contradiction, canon, authorship, apocalyptic expectation, and the strange literary texture of early Christian scripture.
A recurring theme throughout the discussion is the idea that contradiction may not weaken scripture, but deepen it. Rather than flattening the Gospels into a single harmonized account, we explore the possibility that their tensions, disagreements, and competing emphases are precisely what make them intellectually and spiritually alive. The Gospels become less a single voice than a conversation unfolding across texts, communities, and centuries.
We also explore:
The collapse of biblical literalism and reconstruction of faith
Why the Gospels disagree on the date of Jesus’ death
The “Messianic Secret” and why Jesus hides his identity in Mark
The strange anonymous figures of the Gospels, including the Beloved Disciple
Apocalyptic expectation in Jesus and Paul
How Christianity adapted after the delayed apocalypse
The development of the biblical canon and pseudonymous epistles
John’s Gospel, mysticism, and accusations of Gnosticism
Whether scripture should be read as history, theology, literature, or all three at once
From Mark’s abrupt ending to John’s cosmic theology, this conversation examines the New Testament as a dynamic and evolving body of texts—one shaped as much by interpretation and argument as by doctrine itself.
Whether you are interested in biblical studies, theology, literary interpretation, church history, or the philosophy of religion, this discussion provides a detailed and nuanced exploration of how the Christian scriptures were written, interpreted, and transformed.
00:00:00 Contradictions in scripture
00:00:55 Introduction
00:03:59 John Nelson and losing fundamentalism
00:12:04 Scripture, literalism, and reading historically
00:17:14 Why the Gospels disagree
00:27:32 The date of Jesus’ death
00:29:48 The strange mysteries of the Gospels
00:32:58 The Messianic Secret in Mark
00:41:05 Why Jesus hides his identity
00:47:21 Apocalypse and the end of the world
00:50:22 John’s Gospel and delayed eschatology
00:56:12 Canon, revision, and rewriting scripture
01:00:48 Gnosticism and non-canonical gospels
01:04:20 Can the biblical canon change?
01:10:47 Pseudonymous epistles and authorship
01:18:00 The Beloved Disciple
01:22:57 Closing poem and conclusion
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There is nothing more intimate than reading.
A book is not just paper, ink -- it isn't just an information-convoybelt. Somehow, through a handful of symbols, another consciousness begins speaking inside your mind. Across centuries, across languages, across death — reading allows one soul to inhabit another.
In this conversation, Professor Brian Cummings joins Jack and Milo to explore the strange power of books, writing, and reading.
What was intended as a discussion about the history of the book — from scrolls and manuscripts to Shakespeare’s First Folio — became something much richer and stranger: a philosophical exploration of consciousness, memory, religion, imagination, and why human beings treat books as almost sacred objects.
We discuss:
• Why reading feels like experiencing another soul
• Plato, Aristotle, and the philosophy of writing
• Shakespeare and the invention of literary immortality
• Why religions become “religions of the book”
• The mystery of language and symbols
• Tolkien, Dostoevsky, Milton, Borges, Beckett, and the first books that changed us
• Why owning books matters psychologically
• Whether books are humanity’s greatest technology
• The strange relationship between writers, readers, and consciousness itself
“If the soul is like a book, then reading is another person walking beside you.”
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This long-form conversation explores medieval travel, pilgrimage, and imagination with Professor Anthony Bale (University of Cambridge). We examine how people in the Middle Ages understood a world they knew to be vast, real, and inhabited—yet only partially accessible, navigable, or comprehensible.
A central theme is the tension between knowledge and uncertainty. Medieval travellers were often moving through spaces that were both physically real and imaginatively constructed: Jerusalem as both a city and a spiritual landscape; distant regions like Ethiopia or India as places shaped as much by myth as by experience. Travel writing reflects this duality—combining observation, theology, hearsay, and invention in ways that resist modern distinctions between fact and fiction.
We also explore:
* The difference between migration and “travel” as a chosen, meaningful journey
* Pilgrimage as both spiritual discipline and early form of tourism
* The role of Venice, the Franciscans, and the Mamluks in structuring routes to the Holy Land
* The economics of travel: currencies, credit, and material goods
* Language barriers, miscommunication, and strategies for getting by
* Figures such as Margery Kempe and the limits of medieval curiosity
* The persistence of myths like Prester John and their explanatory function
Throughout, the discussion returns to a broader question: how do people make sense of a world that exceeds their knowledge? Medieval travel offers one answer—not through systematic understanding, but through narrative, belief, and selective attention.
Whether you are interested in medieval history, literature, religion, or the philosophy of travel, this conversation provides a detailed and nuanced introduction to how movement shaped the medieval imagination.
00:00:00 Medieval world, mystery, and Prester John
00:01:01 Introduction
00:06:26 Anthony Bale
00:08:40 Becoming a medievalist
00:14:08 Medieval travel and modern tourism
00:23:09 Margery Kempe and pilgrimage inwardness
00:28:57 Jerusalem routes, Mamluks, and pilgrimage structure
00:38:14 Venice, money, and travel logistics
00:46:57 Language, misunderstanding, and communication
00:57:26 Beyond Europe: India, Ethiopia, China
01:00:50 Prester John and the unknown world
01:02:08 Conclusion
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This long-form interview explores the nature of devotional poetry in the 17th century, focusing on major figures such as John Donne, George Herbert, and their contemporaries. Together with Professor Helen Wilcox (Bangor University), we examine how early modern poets grappled with one of the central paradoxes of religious writing: the sense that language is both essential and ultimately insufficient to express God.
A recurring theme in this discussion is the idea that God exceeds language. Even the most inventive and intellectually rigorous poets—Donne with his metaphysical conceits, Herbert with his formal precision—acknowledge a limit to expression. Poetry becomes an act of striving: an attempt to articulate the divine while recognizing that it can never be fully contained in words.
We also explore:
The relationship between devotional poetry and prayer
The overlap between love poetry and religious expression
The influence of the Psalms and biblical translation
The role of music, liturgy, and communal worship
The tension between private faith and public poetry
The cultural and historical context of post-Reformation England
From the metaphysical intensity of Donne to Herbert’s quieter devotional struggles, this conversation offers an in-depth look at how poets used language to approach what lies beyond it—and why they so often felt they failed.
Whether you're interested in literature, theology, philosophy, or early modern history, this discussion provides a rich introduction to one of the most intellectually and spiritually complex traditions in English poetry.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:14:15 Is devotional poetry a form of prayer?
00:30:50 Should we only write to improve people's lives?
00:41:30 You can only remake a religion in a group - not alone
00:47:00 What we most relish in Donne
00:53:15 Can we find poets in their poems?
01:00:40 Devotion in the modern world
01:14:40 Devotional poetry and music
01:26:49 A blind man describing the abyss
01:38:14 The 18th century is a desert
01:46:00 Magnolia trees in full bloom
00:00:00 Introduction
00:06:00 Becky arrives - Cambridge slander
00:11:25 London slander
00:15:45 The Middle Ages
00:19:05 Actual beginning of interview
00:29:05 The intellect, the imagination
00:40:27 Teaching the Cloud
00:53:16 Words for God - Om - Words for Flowers
01:06:00 Many religions stuffed in one big bag
01:20:30 To love language, love the world, yet go beyond it
01:35:00 Meditation as preparation for death
01:43:29 The Cloud as a practice
01:53:30 Bible study as an intense book-club
02:00:10 Give yourself to the void
02:08:30 A single moment of reality is worth eternity
02:11:47 A composition based on Cloud
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How much do movies (especially schlocky movies) really shape what we believe?
In this episode of Solomon & Smith, we sit down with religious studies professor Dr. Joe Lacock to talk about how horror films like The Exorcist didn’t just reflect culture—they changed it.
We speak about the rise of modern exorcisms, figures like the Bradys (infleunce for the Conjuring franchise) the spread of the satanic panic, and other conspiracy theories, such as the Lizard people. We break down the surprising feedback loop between pop culture and real-world belief systems.
How does entertainment quietly influence how millions of people see reality itself?
What We Cover:
How The Exorcist influenced real exorcism practices
Why satanic panic took off in America
The link between horror films and religious belief
How media shapes fear, faith, and conspiracy thinking
Why educated people aren’t immune to these effects
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