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  • Beckett, Bernhard, and the Literature of Rage | Mark Bowles

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    All My Precious Madness is available at bookshops, both good and evil.


    In this conversation, novelist Mark Bowles joins Jack and Milo to discuss his debut novel All My Precious Madness, a voice-driven, rage-filled, lyrical work about Henry Nash: an academic turned telesales worker whose inner life spills out through invective, memory, fantasy, grief, class resentment, and strange beauty.


    The discussion begins with Mark’s early reading life, from Treasure Island and Enid Blyton to the shock of discovering Samuel Beckett. We talk about Beckett’s stripped-down language, floating voices, physical detail, and the formative experience of encountering a literature that seemed to open onto an entirely different world.


    Much of the conversation centres on what it means to write a first novel. Mark reflects on the pressure and preciousness of the debut: the sense that a first book announces a voice, discloses something private, and gathers up material that may have been stored for years. We discuss how All My Precious Madness grew out of fragments, notebooks, and an insistent central voice rather than a conventional plot.


    We also explore the influence of Thomas Bernhard and Walter Benjamin: rage, repetition, digression, fragments, the “left-handed” approach to thought, and the idea that some truths can only be reached indirectly. Along the way, we talk about autodidacticism, class, Oxford, northernness, high culture, business jargon, academia, and the ways language can be degraded by institutions.


    Expect reflections on:


    Samuel Beckett, Thomas Bernhard, and the literature of voice


    Writing a first novel and the strange exposure of publication


    Rage, lyricism, grief, melancholy, and comic invective


    Autodidacticism, class, Oxford, and the labour of acquiring culture


    Telesales, corporate language, and soul-destroying work


    Academic jargon and the policing of intellectual tribes


    Digression as literary method


    Reading, audiobooks, and the reader’s role in creating a book


    English humour, irony, resignation, and satire


    Fantasy, inner life, and the “uncommitted crime” of art


    In the later part of the conversation, Mark discusses his next novel, How Do People Stay the Same?, written as a backwards-moving journal across thirty years, as well as a further book inspired by the mysterious case of Peter Bergmann.


    If you enjoy long-form conversations on literature, writing, style, philosophy, class, comedy, and the strange private life of fiction, subscribe to the channel and leave a comment below.


    00:00:00 Fantasy, fiction, and inner life

    00:01:19 Introduction to Mark B. and *All My Precious Madness*

    00:04:31 Mark arrives

    00:06:18 Poetic epigraph

    00:09:24 Childhood reading, *Treasure Island*, and Beckett

    00:13:44 Voice, physicality, and literary interiority

    00:16:19 Becoming a writer

    00:20:26 The pressure of the first novel

    00:24:09 Voice, fragments, and Thomas Bernhard

    00:30:16 Class, Oxford, and cultural self-invention

    00:38:01 Silence, childhood, and imagination

    00:40:10 Rage, lyricism, and catharsis

    00:42:26 Telesales and soul-destroying work

    00:46:24 Corporate language, academia, and jargon

    00:54:50 Digression as method

    01:01:18 Stream of consciousness and reading rhythm

    01:05:55 Books, audiobooks, and the reader’s imagination

    01:11:25 Humour, English irony, and resignation

    01:18:00 Language, fantasy, and expression

    01:22:23 Art as an uncommitted crime

    01:24:27 Future novels and publication

    01:29:24 Conclusion

    1 hr 30 min
  • The Greatest Fiction of Every Decade (1800–2000) | Jack & Milo’s Picks

    *- Both out lists are pasted below -*


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    In this video Jack and Milo discuss their favourite works of fiction decade by decade, starting in 1800 and going 200 years, decade by decade, until they reach the borders of our present century. If you would like to be interviewed by us about your favourite books, please send an email.


    1800s

    Jack: Michael Kohlhaas - Heinrich Von Kleist

    Milo: Heinrich Von Ofterdingen - Novalis


    1810s

    Jack: Frankenstein - Mary Shelley

    Milo: Persuasion - Jane Austen


    1820s

    Jack: Don Juan - George Gordon Byron (If only prose allowed, The Red and the Black - Stendhal)

    Milo: The Life and Opinions of the Tomcat Murr - ETA Hoffmann


    1830s

    Jack: The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym - Edgar Allan Poe

    Milo - Nevsky Prospect - Nikolai Gogol


    1840s

    Jack: Wuthering Heights - Emily Brontë

    Milo: Mr. Prokharchin - Fyodor Dostoevsky


    1850s

    Jack: David Copperfield - Charles Dickens

    Milo: The Whale - Herman Melville


    1860s

    Jack: War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy

    Milo: War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy


    1870s

    Jack: Middlemarch - George Eliot

    Milo: Middlemarch - George Eliot


    1880s

    Jack: Three Men in a Boat - Jerome K Jerome

    Milo: Thus Spoke Zarathustra - Friedrich Nietzsche


    1890s

    Jack: The Lady with the Dog - Anton Chekhov

    Milo: New Grub Street - George Gissing


    1900s

    Jack: The Man Who Was Thursday - GK Chesterton

    Milo: The Man Who Was Thursday - GK Chesterton


    1910s

    Jack: Of Human Bondage - W Somerset Maugham

    Milo: The Great Wall of China - Franz Kafka


    1920s

    Jack: To the Lighthouse - Virginia Woolf

    Milo: The Sound and the Fury - William Faulkner


    1930s

    Jack: Die Blendung/ Auto de fe - Elias Canetti

    Milo: The Hobbit - J R R Tolkein


    1940s

    Jack: The Little Prince - Antoine de Saint Exupery

    Milo: The Plague - Albert Camus


    1950s

    Jack: The End of the Affair - Graham Greene

    Milo: The Last Temptation of Christ - Nikos Kazantzakis


    1960s

    Jack: Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole

    Milo: The Phantom Tollbooth - Norton Juster


    1970s

    Jack: The Sea, The Sea - Iris Murdoch

    Milo: Suttree - Cormac McCarthy


    1980s

    Jack: Extinction - Thomas Bernhard

    Milo: Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole


    1990s

    Jack: Before and During - Vladimir Sharov

    Milo: Infinite Jest - David Foster Wallace


    00:00:00 Intro

    00:04:45 1800s

    00:12:52 1810s

    00:24:20 1820s

    00:30:24 1830s

    00:37:38 1840s

    00:48:35 1850s

    00:55:22 1860s

    00:59:29 1870s

    01:05:25 1880s

    01:10:41 1890s

    01:17:42 1900s

    01:22:07 1910s

    01:28:50 1920s

    01:37:22 1930s

    01:47:48 1940s

    01:53:51 1950s

    02:05:49 1960s

    02:12:44 1970s

    02:19:49 1980s

    02:27:15 1990s

    02:36:12 Conclusion

    2 hr 39 min
  • David Bentley Hart: Why Nietzsche Was Wrong About Love and Morality

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    In this conversation, David Bentley Hart joins Jack and Milo to discuss among the most dangerous and controversial of all questions: where does morality come from? Is morality an evolutionary strategy for accruing power, or are love and compassion woven into the structure of being?

    In philosophical, theological, literary, and evolutionary terms, Hart discusses the origins of moral instincts in humans and animals, the role of altruism and compassion in nature, and why he believes reductive accounts of morality ultimately fail to explain human experience. We talk about Nietzsche, Darwin, Dawkins, cooperation in nature, and the limits of evolutionary psychology.


    Hart also reflects on Christianity’s moral revolution and argues that Christ represented a profound interruption in the moral imagination of the ancient world—placing the poor, the rejected, and the vulnerable at the center of ethical life. The discussion also touches on the Resurrection accounts, the Gospels, the Fall, late antiquity, slavery, philanthropy, and the relationship between love, truth, and spiritual transformation.


    In the second half of the discussion we discuss literature, and where we put to Hart various author duels: Tolstoy or Dostoevsky, Chesterton or Wilde, Eliot or Dickens, Mann or Hesse.


    Expect reflections on:


    The metaphysical origins of morality


    Whether animals and nature exhibit genuine moral behavior


    Nietzsche, power, and the “discourse of suspicion”


    Evolutionary psychology and The Selfish Gene


    Christ’s challenge to ancient morality


    Love, compassion, and the structure of reality


    Cooperation, altruism, and the natural world


    Otters, dolphins, crocodiles… and why philosophy should take them seriously


    Plus: in the second half of the interview, Hart turns to literature, The Simpsons, baseball as beauty, and debates some of history’s greatest writers.


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    Where do you think morality comes from?


    00:00:00 Introduction

    00:07:22 DBH arrives

    00:08:55 Poetic epigraph

    00:13:00 The metaphysical origins of morality

    00:18:30 How Christ interrupted late-antique morality

    00:32:00 Was Christ necessary to philanthropy

    00:42:12 The Nietzschean view of moral origins

    00:48:50 Is Ressentiment a Natural Condition, Co-operative Evolution

    00:56:00 Otters! Darwinian Reductionaism. Dawkins Bashing

    01:00:20 Did we mechanise nature to morally neautralise it?

    01:05:12 Terrence Malick - The Tree of Life - Jonh Ford

    01:13:30 Walt Disney - Tolkein on Disney

    01:21:50 Tolstoy vs. Dostoevsky

    01:28:18 Oscar Wilde vs. G.K. Chesterton

    01:35:49 Charles Dickens vs. George Eliot

    01:38:50 Coffee - Balzac - Rodin - England

    01:44:00 Thomas Mann vs. Hermann Hesse

    01:47:09 Graham Hancock - Atlantis

    01:52:25 Decline in reading - Nostalgia

    01:55:19 Ecclesiastes vs. The Song of Songs - Swift vs. Defore - Whitman vs. Wordsworth

    01:59:09 The Simpsons

    02:04:30 Base ball

    2 hr 14 min
  • Translating The Magic Mountain (And Why Thomas Mann Is So Difficult) | Simon Pare

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    In this long-form conversation, Milo and Jack speak with translator Simon Pare about the challenge of translating The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann for Oxford World’s Classics.





    This discussion explores the language, style, and enormous technical challenges behind bringing one of the greatest novels of the 20th century into English. Simon discusses his new 2026 translation of The Magic Mountain, the legacy of earlier translators, and the strange experience of living inside Mann’s vast novel while translating it.





    Topics include:





    • Why Thomas Mann is so difficult to translate


    • The challenge of translating The Magic Mountain’s long German sentences


    • Hans Castorp, time, and the atmosphere of Davos


    • Translation choices, compromises, and literary voice


    • Settembrini, Naphta, Behrens, and Peeperkorn’s speech styles


    • The legacy of H. T. Lowe-Porter and later English translations


    • Translation theory and literary translation in practice


    • Switzerland, Thomas Mann, and the culture surrounding the novel


    • The relationship between language, rhythm, and character





    The Magic Mountain (Der Zauberberg) began as a short novella inspired by Thomas Mann’s visit to a Davos sanatorium and grew into a monumental meditation on time, illness, modernity, and European intellectual life before the First World War.





    This interview focuses primarily on translation and language. A separate discussion with Richie Robertson on the novel’s themes and content will follow.





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    1 hr 53 min
  • The Gospels Don’t Agree — And That’s the Point | John Nelson on the Bible

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    This long-form conversation explores the New Testament, the four Gospels, and the problem of biblical interpretation with New Testament scholar John Nelson. Together we examine contradiction, canon, authorship, apocalyptic expectation, and the strange literary texture of early Christian scripture.


    A recurring theme throughout the discussion is the idea that contradiction may not weaken scripture, but deepen it. Rather than flattening the Gospels into a single harmonized account, we explore the possibility that their tensions, disagreements, and competing emphases are precisely what make them intellectually and spiritually alive. The Gospels become less a single voice than a conversation unfolding across texts, communities, and centuries.


    We also explore:


    The collapse of biblical literalism and reconstruction of faith

    Why the Gospels disagree on the date of Jesus’ death

    The “Messianic Secret” and why Jesus hides his identity in Mark

    The strange anonymous figures of the Gospels, including the Beloved Disciple

    Apocalyptic expectation in Jesus and Paul

    How Christianity adapted after the delayed apocalypse

    The development of the biblical canon and pseudonymous epistles

    John’s Gospel, mysticism, and accusations of Gnosticism

    Whether scripture should be read as history, theology, literature, or all three at once


    From Mark’s abrupt ending to John’s cosmic theology, this conversation examines the New Testament as a dynamic and evolving body of texts—one shaped as much by interpretation and argument as by doctrine itself.


    Whether you are interested in biblical studies, theology, literary interpretation, church history, or the philosophy of religion, this discussion provides a detailed and nuanced exploration of how the Christian scriptures were written, interpreted, and transformed.


    00:00:00 Contradictions in scripture

    00:00:55 Introduction

    00:03:59 John Nelson and losing fundamentalism

    00:12:04 Scripture, literalism, and reading historically

    00:17:14 Why the Gospels disagree

    00:27:32 The date of Jesus’ death

    00:29:48 The strange mysteries of the Gospels

    00:32:58 The Messianic Secret in Mark

    00:41:05 Why Jesus hides his identity

    00:47:21 Apocalypse and the end of the world

    00:50:22 John’s Gospel and delayed eschatology

    00:56:12 Canon, revision, and rewriting scripture

    01:00:48 Gnosticism and non-canonical gospels

    01:04:20 Can the biblical canon change?

    01:10:47 Pseudonymous epistles and authorship

    01:18:00 The Beloved Disciple

    01:22:57 Closing poem and conclusion

    1 hr 28 min
  • This Conversation Changed How I Think About Reading | Brian Cummings

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    There is nothing more intimate than reading.


    A book is not just paper, ink -- it isn't just an information-convoybelt. Somehow, through a handful of symbols, another consciousness begins speaking inside your mind. Across centuries, across languages, across death — reading allows one soul to inhabit another.


    In this conversation, Professor Brian Cummings joins Jack and Milo to explore the strange power of books, writing, and reading.


    What was intended as a discussion about the history of the book — from scrolls and manuscripts to Shakespeare’s First Folio — became something much richer and stranger: a philosophical exploration of consciousness, memory, religion, imagination, and why human beings treat books as almost sacred objects.


    We discuss:

    • Why reading feels like experiencing another soul

    • Plato, Aristotle, and the philosophy of writing

    • Shakespeare and the invention of literary immortality

    • Why religions become “religions of the book”

    • The mystery of language and symbols

    • Tolkien, Dostoevsky, Milton, Borges, Beckett, and the first books that changed us

    • Why owning books matters psychologically

    • Whether books are humanity’s greatest technology

    • The strange relationship between writers, readers, and consciousness itself


    “If the soul is like a book, then reading is another person walking beside you.”

    2 hr 14 min
  • Were Medieval Pilgrimages Actually Vacations? | Anthony Bale on Medieval Travel

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    This long-form conversation explores medieval travel, pilgrimage, and imagination with Professor Anthony Bale (University of Cambridge). We examine how people in the Middle Ages understood a world they knew to be vast, real, and inhabited—yet only partially accessible, navigable, or comprehensible.


    A central theme is the tension between knowledge and uncertainty. Medieval travellers were often moving through spaces that were both physically real and imaginatively constructed: Jerusalem as both a city and a spiritual landscape; distant regions like Ethiopia or India as places shaped as much by myth as by experience. Travel writing reflects this duality—combining observation, theology, hearsay, and invention in ways that resist modern distinctions between fact and fiction.


    We also explore:


    * The difference between migration and “travel” as a chosen, meaningful journey

    * Pilgrimage as both spiritual discipline and early form of tourism

    * The role of Venice, the Franciscans, and the Mamluks in structuring routes to the Holy Land

    * The economics of travel: currencies, credit, and material goods

    * Language barriers, miscommunication, and strategies for getting by

    * Figures such as Margery Kempe and the limits of medieval curiosity

    * The persistence of myths like Prester John and their explanatory function


    Throughout, the discussion returns to a broader question: how do people make sense of a world that exceeds their knowledge? Medieval travel offers one answer—not through systematic understanding, but through narrative, belief, and selective attention.


    Whether you are interested in medieval history, literature, religion, or the philosophy of travel, this conversation provides a detailed and nuanced introduction to how movement shaped the medieval imagination.


    00:00:00 Medieval world, mystery, and Prester John

    00:01:01 Introduction

    00:06:26 Anthony Bale

    00:08:40 Becoming a medievalist

    00:14:08 Medieval travel and modern tourism

    00:23:09 Margery Kempe and pilgrimage inwardness

    00:28:57 Jerusalem routes, Mamluks, and pilgrimage structure

    00:38:14 Venice, money, and travel logistics

    00:46:57 Language, misunderstanding, and communication

    00:57:26 Beyond Europe: India, Ethiopia, China

    01:00:50 Prester John and the unknown world

    01:02:08 Conclusion

    1 hr 3 min
  • Why Language Fails God: John Donne, George Herbert & the Limits of Poetry | Helen Wilcox

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    This long-form interview explores the nature of devotional poetry in the 17th century, focusing on major figures such as John Donne, George Herbert, and their contemporaries. Together with Professor Helen Wilcox (Bangor University), we examine how early modern poets grappled with one of the central paradoxes of religious writing: the sense that language is both essential and ultimately insufficient to express God.


    A recurring theme in this discussion is the idea that God exceeds language. Even the most inventive and intellectually rigorous poets—Donne with his metaphysical conceits, Herbert with his formal precision—acknowledge a limit to expression. Poetry becomes an act of striving: an attempt to articulate the divine while recognizing that it can never be fully contained in words.


    We also explore:


    The relationship between devotional poetry and prayer


    The overlap between love poetry and religious expression


    The influence of the Psalms and biblical translation


    The role of music, liturgy, and communal worship


    The tension between private faith and public poetry


    The cultural and historical context of post-Reformation England


    From the metaphysical intensity of Donne to Herbert’s quieter devotional struggles, this conversation offers an in-depth look at how poets used language to approach what lies beyond it—and why they so often felt they failed.


    Whether you're interested in literature, theology, philosophy, or early modern history, this discussion provides a rich introduction to one of the most intellectually and spiritually complex traditions in English poetry.


    00:00:00 Introduction

    00:14:15 Is devotional poetry a form of prayer?

    00:30:50 Should we only write to improve people's lives?

    00:41:30 You can only remake a religion in a group - not alone

    00:47:00 What we most relish in Donne

    00:53:15 Can we find poets in their poems?

    01:00:40 Devotion in the modern world

    01:14:40 Devotional poetry and music

    01:26:49 A blind man describing the abyss

    01:38:14 The 18th century is a desert

    01:46:00 Magnolia trees in full bloom

    1 hr 54 min
  • Can You Love an Unknowable God? | Becky Field on The Cloud of Unknowing

    00:00:00 Introduction

    00:06:00 Becky arrives - Cambridge slander

    00:11:25 London slander

    00:15:45 The Middle Ages

    00:19:05 Actual beginning of interview

    00:29:05 The intellect, the imagination

    00:40:27 Teaching the Cloud

    00:53:16 Words for God - Om - Words for Flowers

    01:06:00 Many religions stuffed in one big bag

    01:20:30 To love language, love the world, yet go beyond it

    01:35:00 Meditation as preparation for death

    01:43:29 The Cloud as a practice

    01:53:30 Bible study as an intense book-club

    02:00:10 Give yourself to the void

    02:08:30 A single moment of reality is worth eternity

    02:11:47 A composition based on Cloud

    2 hr 23 min
  • How Horror Movies Created Real Religious Beliefs | Dr. Joseph Laycock

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    How much do movies (especially schlocky movies) really shape what we believe?


    In this episode of Solomon & Smith, we sit down with religious studies professor Dr. Joe Lacock to talk about how horror films like The Exorcist didn’t just reflect culture—they changed it.


    We speak about the rise of modern exorcisms, figures like the Bradys (infleunce for the Conjuring franchise) the spread of the satanic panic, and other conspiracy theories, such as the Lizard people. We break down the surprising feedback loop between pop culture and real-world belief systems.


    How does entertainment quietly influence how millions of people see reality itself?



    What We Cover:


    How The Exorcist influenced real exorcism practices

    Why satanic panic took off in America

    The link between horror films and religious belief

    How media shapes fear, faith, and conspiracy thinking

    Why educated people aren’t immune to these effects

    2 hr 8 min

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