Homicide Detective J. Warner Wallace joins Kyle and Joel to talk about how he investigated Jesus' death as a cold case detective, his journey to becoming an apologist, and more cool cop stories. J. Warner Wallace worked as a cold case homicide detective before finding Jesus. Once he retired from police work he went on to become an apologist and author. His latest book is "Person of Interest: Why Jesus Still Matters in a World That Rejects the Bible."

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Kyle and Joel find out how working surveillance played a large part for J. Warner’s journey to becoming a Christian. J. Warner goes into what reading the new testament was like for him. Kyle asks the tough questions such as if J. Warner has fired his gun or if he likes Jesus. Joel takes the role of book promoter by constantly bringing up J. Warner’s book. J. Warner comments on the Kyle Rittenhouse case and why it was a bad idea from the beginning. 

In the Subscriber Portion, Joel finds out if becoming a Christian changed J. Warner’s police work. J. Warner talks about his views on finding an audience. Kyle sparks a great topic with police profiling and some probable causes for it. As always we end the conversation with the ever inspiring 10 questions.